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Greendield is the 21st century Thomas Paine.
And the only way to de-Islamize a person is to plant him or her face down in a grace with his/her butt aimed at Mekkah with pig fat poured into the grave before filling it in.
Nope. Overwhelming force. That’s how we defeated Shintoism in Japan and other ism’s..
Exterminating all mooslims down to age 3 or 4 is the only real way. Destroy every koran, destroy every piece of their history and culture, go all Lidice on Mecca, Even that may not do it. The way they act is ingrained in their DNA. But all this would be a start.
I don't believe in mass slaughter, but if one a-bomb from an Islamic nutter goes off somewhere, we might have to take very harsh actions of which mass quarantining would be a lesser harsh solution. Harsher actions might have to be taken.
I have come to believe that certain belief and behavorial traits are inherited. But I’m not a proponent of killing them all. Then we would be no better than ISIS. But a few selected targets, even if they use innocent civilians as shields, might be a start.
I’d disagree about being the same as ISIS, as we do not rape, behead children, burn people in cages, and commit FGM. I just meant bomb or shoot them all. Quarantine procedures would not work imho. Their entire way of life must be undone in order to de islamisize that bunch. These ain’t nazis or Japanese we’re dealing with. They are modern day barbarians.
The west thinks they are only at war with islamists and most muslims are moderate and good people.
This infidel sees it much differently.
I don't know if the God I believe in wants us to kill them all. There is something very tenacious about that religion though. Now they are so scattered among our populations, it isn't going to happen so why talk about it?
We can't seem to let enough of them in our country anyway.
Sometimes I get so mad I feel like it but I don't think God would condone it at this stage of things. There are still some who liked and trusted us and want to live in peace.
I saw a photo of a Ba'Hai temple last night (OT). It was built like a lotus. Damn it was pretty. But I have to ask myself would I want to worship in such a place if it was more or less doctrinally pure Christianity? No. It wouldn't feel right. Just as simple as that. I am conditioned in my genes that a church has to look like a traditional place of Christian worship.
What about my religion? What would it take to eradicate it out of me and other Christians of all stripes? Maybe we'd better look at that because it's on somebody's agenda.
We defeat the barbarians with missionaries backed up by military force. They must be required to listen, to interact without the option of killing what they do not like. Hearts and minds is fundamental. Getting there requires policing barbarism.
Allowing ISIS to destroy Christian churches and behead Jesus’ followers exacerbates the problem. If there is no price to pay for murder then the killing continues and worsens. That is what we are seeing.
With a CIC who is conflicted about our basic purpose there is no hope of overcoming. With Obama we are left unarmed and dead. We must be rid of him and everything he stands for. We must return to our basic nature, to require peace, if necessary, at the barrel of a gun.
I don't believe in forced conversions. It's not going to happen because the world is starting to hate Christians. See it every day in comments. Not here.
I realize I have contradicted myself on this subject. Our only choice is to bomb a bunch of them along with civilians although I would prefer to spare the civilians. The American people, in general, want the Shias and Sunnis and whoever else caught up in that maelstrom to fight it out themselves. No more ground troops.
When I see what they have done in Ramadi, for example, my inclination is to flatten the place. It was when we took Fallujah the first time, too. Tell non-combatants to get out but they will be held as human shields. So be it. Wipe it off the face of the earth. Sometimes it is the only way.
They are not ready to accept Christianity and maybe it is too late for them anyway.
I never said or implied anything about forced conversion. Perhaps you are not aware of the work of missionaries. Their goal is to introduce Christ to nonbelievers. The policing is simply to prevent their listener from beheading the missionary.
Barbarians must not be allowed to get away with barbarism. Force must be applied is to prevent them from doing evil or to punish them mightily if they do.
The work of the missionary is to witness to the power of Christ to change lives. This is the real work of the Christian world, bringing lost souls out of the darkness of evil into the light of God’s love.
Muslims stand in need of conversion. That can never be valid if it is forced. The immense power of Christians in the mideast today refusing to give up Christ and become Muslim even to the point of death, is a powerful witness that sears the souls of their killers. ISIS and the rest of this vicious cult must not be allowed to continue their violence. They must be required to accept a modicum of civilization.
Right now I don't even know if our military can say Jesus Christ any more unless in cursing.
I believe they have aided in rescuing captive missionaries, however. I only remember one case, the two being held in Afghanistan who after a huge hassle were eventually released. The military may have had a role in that, at least escorting them to safety out or on a flight.
Saudi Arabia would never let any missionary in. It would have to be by stealth, and we can't involve our military into that kind of intrigue.
That being said, God has his ways, and He can speak to the hearts of those whom he will. I don't despair over more conversions if only a few. It's like God turns his attention elsewhere because we have made it plain through our laws that He is no longer welcome here except as some formality and to faithful remaining who are probably in a minority.
Remember when they guffawed (I didn't) at Ann Coulter when she said we ought to convert Muslims to Christianity (more I can't remember). Even in spite of that, if God wants it to happen, it will happen.
So I hope I didn't offend by my response.
Reminds me of years ago I read a book called "God's Smuggler". A Danish? missionary smuggled bibles behind the Iron Curtain. I believed it at the time. How do i know now if it was true? Some amazing things seem to have happened at border crossings, etc.
I think more Christians are destined to be killed for their faith; I don't know how many.
I agree. The final solution is to change their culture.
Where the force comes in is in soundly defeating them. Their ideology falls apart when they are confronted by a superior force. If they are losing all the battles it is impossible to believe their ideology is the best.
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