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To Those Celebrating Josh Duggar's Fall: Congratulations. You Still Lose.
Charting Course ^ | 5/22/15 | Steve Berman

Posted on 05/22/2015 11:56:44 AM PDT by lifeofgrace

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To: Boogieman

In answer I believe 4 were his sisters. The other was a relative or friend not living at the same address. That information can be gleaned from the police report.

This is not directed to you Boogieman but just everyone in general.

While some in the media and on the left are happy to take this family down I don’t believe any conservative here takes pleasure and glee in the fact that this has happened to the Duggars. I only feel sorry for his sisters however. He has damaged more than his family namely the pro-family group he worked for, and the Christians, conservative politicians who had their photos taken with him and home-schoolers who will be painted with the same brush and called hypocrites.

The show did need to come off the air. No one to blame for that but the Duggars themselves. I would be happy to never hear about them again. But to take some kind of pleasure in this? I don’t think so. Disgust and horror maybe. Sadness and anger.

The Lord works in mysterious ways and perhaps some good will come of this. Maybe his wife will be more watchful with two little girls in the house, the spouses of the newly married and future married Duggars would be wise to forego asking Uncle Josh to babysit and God forbid, if any of this is still occurring (we don’t know that for sure) more light is now focused on this family and it will stop and they will get real help. Maybe prevent any unknowing victims to put their trust in Josh and leave their children unattended with him. Would it be better for them or for Josh if no one ever knew?

It is a harsh reality for them all. The victims are further victimized by the publicity and other family members may feel shame. But the truth is that Josh is responsible for what has happened to his family and no one else.

Josh was supposedly raised in a Christian family and at the age of 14 I am sure that he was well aware that what he did was wrong. I was raised in a Catholic family, went to Catholic grade school and surely by that age, if not long before that, I would know that it was a sin and wrong.


61 posted on 05/22/2015 9:09:15 PM PDT by conservativegranny
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To: VRWCmember

“Did you ever do anything as a child or in your youth (say from age 8 to age 16) to another child in the same age range that would be a far more serious immoral or even criminal act if you did as an adult to a child or adolescent? “

No.

And he did molest 4 of his sisters. Who else would it be living at the same address? The police report is posted on the internet.


62 posted on 05/22/2015 9:17:37 PM PDT by conservativegranny
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To: lifeofgrace

“I had the pleasure of meeting Josh Duggar not even two months ago. I found him to be humble, well-spoken, polite and quite real. “

Ted Bundy was a charmer, too.


63 posted on 05/23/2015 7:33:36 AM PDT by VictoryGal (Never give up, never surrender! REMEMBER NEDA)
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To: lifeofgrace

“Duggar admitted what happened and now it’s your turn to deal with it. He’s already past it. His wife is past it. His family is past it.”

Really? I want to hear that FROM THE DUGGAR GIRLS THIS MONSTER MOLESTED.


64 posted on 05/23/2015 7:34:56 AM PDT by VictoryGal (Never give up, never surrender! REMEMBER NEDA)
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To: lifeofgrace
I doubt we’ll see him on the show anymore, which is very, very sad.

Why sad?

You get off on watching perverts?

Or writing blogs about them?

65 posted on 05/23/2015 7:35:39 AM PDT by humblegunner (NOW with even more AWESOMENESS)
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To: ilovesarah2012

> I would not be surprised if he commits suicide.

I know this is not very Christian of me to say, but if he does such a thing it would spare his daughter and his daughter-to-be (Anna is pregnant with a girl — God help me), as well as giving his 5 young victims closure.


66 posted on 05/23/2015 7:43:58 AM PDT by VictoryGal (Never give up, never surrender! REMEMBER NEDA)
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To: Black Agnes

Where are you getting that one was digitally penetrated? I read the police report and all it mentions is fondling.


67 posted on 08/24/2015 12:21:43 PM PDT by sajajo
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To: MD Expat in PA

Since when is 14 NOT a kid?


68 posted on 08/24/2015 12:21:43 PM PDT by sajajo
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To: sajajo

The degree of felony indicated.


69 posted on 08/24/2015 12:23:28 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: sajajo; Black Agnes
Since when is 14 NOT a kid?

Since when does a 14-15 year old – adolescent -young man - even a 14 year old “child” not know that it is wrong to sexually molest his sisters, including his 4/5 year old sister and another girl who was a family baby sitter, not once mind you but (at least) the four to five times that he confessed to the first time and then again at least two times after getting caught/confessing, whatever….

March 2002: The 33-page police report reveals that Jim Bob Duggan tells police his son admits he fondled the breasts and genitals of several victims while they were sleeping in the family's home, and that similar incidents happened four to five times.

2003: In March of 2003, nine months after the first incidents, Jim Bob Duggar and his wife Michelle Duggar are made aware of two more incidents, according to the report. In one instance, he allegedly molested a victim while she was sitting in his lap, according to the report. Around the same time, the person (name redacted) put his hand beneath a victim's dress in the family's laundry room, Michelle and Jim Bob Duggar tell the police.

Where are you getting that one was digitally penetrated? I read the police report and all it mentions is fondling.

I don’t know the extent of what exactly he did but FWIW – the legal definition of fondling: Forcible fondling is the touching of the private body parts of another person for the purpose of sexual gratification, forcibly and/or against that person's will. It may also happen without force or against that person's will where the victim is incapable of giving consent because of his/her youth or because of his/her temporary or permanent mental incapacity.

Whether he digitally penetrated their vaginas or not or just “stroked them” is not the point – it is a distinction without much of a difference.

If you had a 12, 10, 8, and or a 4/5 year old daughter and found out that a 14/15 year old had snuck into their bed rooms while they were sleeping and “fondled” them - fondled their breasts and vaginal areas, and on at least two occasions put his hand up the dress of your 4/5 year old daughter for the express purpose of fondling her genitals – and for those of you in Rio Linda – that would mean her vaginal area, for his own sexual gratification, I guess you’d be OK as long as he didn’t (redacted) “digitally penetrate” her. All’s good. No harm done. Let by gones be by gones.

BTW – was as he a 14 year old child when he signed up for those Ashley Madison account(s)? Was he a child when he put in his Ashley Madison account(s) that he was looking for someone who is interested in “one-night stands,” “experimenting with sex toys,” "someone who can teach me,” “open to experimentation,” and more. The user’s predilections for potential partners, according to the data reviewed by Gawker, include “professional/well groomed,” “short height,” “high sex drive,” “natural breasts,” “girl next door,” “naughty girl,” and more. Was he a child when he confessed to having a porn “addiction”?

BTW – you signed up yesterday just to post two posts to this thread that goes back to May and to no others here?

Sniff. Sniff. I smell ozone.

70 posted on 08/24/2015 5:47:32 PM PDT by MD Expat in PA
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