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Charles Murray says the political process is hopeless. Here's his radical alternative for liberty.
TheBlaze Books ^ | 2015-05-15 | Benjamin Weingarten

Posted on 05/15/2015 7:01:46 AM PDT by fredericbastiat1

I used to think if we had five Nino [Antonin] Scalias or five Clarence Thomases on the [Supreme] Court that we could make a lot of progress. And I have been disabused of that notion for the following reason: There were a series of four or five Supreme Court decisions from 1937 to 1943 which changed — well, changed isn’t the right word — unleashed the government from the constrictions of the Constitution. It unleashed them from being stuck with the enumerated powers, it redefined the Commerce Clause to mean manufacturing and agriculture even if it only has indirect effects on interstate commerce.

Then you had a lesser known decision, but just as important whereby in 1943 in a decision involving the National Broadcasting Company, the Supreme Court said “You know, the Congress doesn’t have to supply a specific intelligible principle in it’s legislation,” which more or less says to the regulatory agency “You’re supposed to do A, B and C.” It can say “Give us fair broadcasting rules,” and that’s good enough. Well, this unleashed the regulatory state to go out and make up whatever regulations they wanted.

… [O]ur legal system is increasingly lawless. It just doesn’t correspond to what we usually think of as the rule of law. And the other thing is that the political process is systemically corrupt. I don’t mean we have more corrupt people in the government, I mean the system now operates in ways that are indistinguishable from the way that a kleptocracy operates.

Pretty grim argument, but I think it’s one that you can sustain.

Murray explains how he came to the conclusion that the solution to what ails us lies in civil disobedience:

(Excerpt) Read more at theblaze.com ...


TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: constitution; liberty; regulations; statism

1 posted on 05/15/2015 7:01:46 AM PDT by fredericbastiat1
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To: fredericbastiat1

Bkmrk for later.


2 posted on 05/15/2015 7:02:36 AM PDT by fwdude (The last time the GOP ran an "extremist," Reagan won 44 states.)
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To: fredericbastiat1

I ordered the book yesterday.


3 posted on 05/15/2015 7:03:46 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Mississippi! My vote is going to Cruz.)
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To: fredericbastiat1

Bfl.


4 posted on 05/15/2015 7:08:57 AM PDT by ConjunctionJunction
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To: fredericbastiat1
Well, this unleashed the regulatory state to go out and make up whatever regulations they wanted

Yup. Nothing "democratic" about a Code of Federal Regulations which is now at 175,000 pages, or was as of last week...undoubtedly higher now.

5 posted on 05/15/2015 7:12:55 AM PDT by Regulator
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To: fredericbastiat1

So.

The plan to defeat the legal system is to get “the rich” to provide funds to take the government to court.

Yes. That will work.

Ummmmmm, who pays the salaries of those government employees and judges?

That’s right. It’s us.

They TAKE our money and then they attack us. Quite a system.


6 posted on 05/15/2015 7:21:26 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: fredericbastiat1
Homeschool Legal Defense Fund does this for homeschoolers.....and....It works!

It would be great to expand this to other areas of government harassment.

Hm?....How about defense against the abuses of Child Protection Agencies?

Finally.....Legal pressure should be brought to bear against these abusive men and women **personally**!!! It is time they had to defend their homes, reputations, and savings **personally**.

I have posted many times that when government schools are sued, the people to go after are the principals, superintendents, and teachers, **personally**!

7 posted on 05/15/2015 7:22:54 AM PDT by wintertime (Stop treating government teachers like they are reincarnated Mother Teresas!)
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To: blueunicorn6
Please read my post #7.

The Homeschool Legal Defense Association works very well for homeschoolers. They go after the reputations of the abusers **personally**.

It would work if the government's abusive functionaries were sued **personally** and risked losing everything they **personally** owned.

8 posted on 05/15/2015 7:25:20 AM PDT by wintertime (Stop treating government teachers like they are reincarnated Mother Teresas!)
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To: fredericbastiat1

I finished the book yesterday.
The comprehensive information on “how we got here” is worth the $11.84 I paid for the Kindle edition.
How his plan would work is yet to be seen. There are many legal foundations that drag various government entities into court and win. The idea is to beat the administrative state in a “death by a thousand paper cuts” fashion.


9 posted on 05/15/2015 7:27:30 AM PDT by Excellence (Marine mom since April 11, 2014)
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To: fredericbastiat1
a series of four or five Supreme Court decisions from 1937 to 1943

FDR's court packing plan failed as a goal, but was a rousing success in that the outcome caused the SCOTUS to start soiling their britches and do a 180 on the direction of their rulings.

Should be a lesson to all of us every time the Left proposes something huge that can't possibly be implemented. They've learned how to win by losing.


10 posted on 05/15/2015 7:30:42 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Excellence
I finished the book yesterday. The comprehensive information on “how we got here” is worth the $11.84 I paid for the Kindle edition. How his plan would work is yet to be seen. There are many legal foundations that drag various government entities into court and win. The idea is to beat the administrative state in a “death by a thousand paper cuts” fashion.

He essentially wants to "ACLU" sue ( as a verb ) the living snot out of them and tie them up, as a counterpoint to their dragging us down via regulation. I am not sure we can via your statement of how it will work.

Combine this with the Article V movement, and we might have a fighting chance...

I must admit, it was sad the other day to hear he believes we are over as we knew it. It is what we discuss here at length @ FR, but to hear it from Mr Murray was something at a different level...

11 posted on 05/15/2015 7:37:55 AM PDT by taildragger (It's Cruz & Walker. Anything else is a Yugo with Racing Stripes....)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Yes. A big way that the Progressives have been winning is by using private/non-profit orgs to sue the government, then have their fellow Progressives IN the government cave to the suit before it even goes to trial with things like consent agreements.

Completely undemocratic. But incredibly effective.


12 posted on 05/15/2015 7:41:17 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: taildragger
Not only should the agencies but so overwhelmed legally but legal action should be taken against the government workers **personally**! Sue them, too. These people, not only tax dollars, should have their **personal** assets threatened and even face criminal RICO charges.
13 posted on 05/15/2015 7:53:48 AM PDT by wintertime (Stop treating government teachers like they are reincarnated Mother Teresas!)
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To: fredericbastiat1

I’ve got zero problem with civil disobedience and I encourage it. I have equally zero patience in calls for armed revolution. That makes you a traitor.


14 posted on 05/15/2015 8:03:30 AM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: fredericbastiat1

However, if he is not the presidential nominee, I think that Ted Cruz would make a superb justice of the SCOTUS. He would likely inspire and drive the court strongly to the right for many years, leading them to neuter much of a century of progressivism.


15 posted on 05/15/2015 8:53:57 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: fredericbastiat1

Good article and interview. Thanks for posting!


16 posted on 05/15/2015 11:31:44 AM PDT by ConjunctionJunction
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