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In Defense of Looting
The New Inquiry ^ | August 21, 2014 | Willie Osterweil

Posted on 04/26/2015 9:28:02 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: 2ndDivisionVet
>"looting is a hard-won and dangerous act with potentially terrible consequences"

So is swimming back to the continent you claim over America!

21 posted on 04/26/2015 11:02:48 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (Genesis 1:29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed,)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

>>>implies people of color are greedy and lazy<<<

This guy is a Bigot, He is saying that Looters are all “people of color”.

In fact it implies that Looters are greedy and lazy.

As for my opinion.

Looters will be shot. If they move, they will be shot again.


22 posted on 04/26/2015 11:15:54 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Hillary, because it's time for a POTUS without a SCROTUS...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Pure Marxist insanity, but well written and clearly the product of an intelligent mind. Too bad his worldview is totally bananas.

It reminds me of Thomas Sowell’s book The Quest for Cosmic Justice. He makes the point that there’s conventional justice which is limited in scope but achievable through human institutions. Then there’s cosmic justice which seeks recompense for the world’s cosmic wrongs. It is not achievable through human institutions, and causes suffering when pursued through force of government. But what is most insidious about cosmic justice is that it requires the violation of conventional justice in order to be realized. This is the kind of justice the left prefers.

This looting thing is a good example. It is sensible to have a rule that stealing is wrong and against the law and that it’s right to use the police power of the state to stop it. This is something that can reasonably be achieved in most cases even by our limited, imperfect human institutions. It does not require a supernatural level of wisdom to be applied fairly, nor does it require us to violate some other tenet of conventional justice.

But to seek justice for the world-historical fact of slavery and its unfortunate consequences? Simply too big and too complex of a task. Undertaking it would mean turning everything upside down and inside out. It would be doomed to fail and would leave a wake of suffering. This is in large part because it would require us to turn a basic part of conventional justice — that is, that it’s wrong to steal — on its head and to see a vice as a virtue, which is precisely what the writer of this piece is making the case for.


23 posted on 04/26/2015 11:30:02 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Yardstick
You just cost me money. One click and Sowell is on my Kindle. 30 seconds. In the middle of Sunday night.

Our author invokes a sense of history that simply is not in the heads of anyone involved, and if he doubts that, he need only ask them. Dude - they were after free TVs. And they didn't mind if they took them from black merchants. The Hate The White People narrative is nothing but window dressing.

Let us free ourselves from this "Africa was looted" meme - the people doing the rioting are citizens of the greatest, freest country in history, are dressed better than medieval royalty, have never known starvation, disease, and misery, and are safely nurtured by the very society they're doing their best to curse, burn, and loot. They are scum. There is no excuse in righteous anger against oppression because in any honest historical perspective, they are not oppressed.

24 posted on 04/26/2015 11:43:28 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: allendale; windsorknot; 2ndDivisionVet; ktw

He and his ilk are paving the road to a racial war, which is really part of a bigger culture war. Unfortunately not enough whites have the slightest awareness of what’s happening.

Actually, racial war is too broad a term - it’s mainly black vs whites, asians and hispanics, and it’s probably unavoidable.

It is my contention that two groups of people that...

1. have significantly different AVERAGE IQs (one or more standard deviation), and...
2. Have features that easily identify individuals as part of the group...

...cannot peacefully coexist in the same society.

The reasons have to do with human nature. A bit of rational thinking will allow anyone to reach the same conclusion. It’s tragic, and very difficult to avoid.

(BTW, widely different average IQ is not the only variable that can cause discord between groups, another one is belief systems (values)).


25 posted on 04/26/2015 11:54:55 PM PDT by aquila48
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26 posted on 04/27/2015 12:52:17 AM PDT by bd476
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Perhaps we should form a looting party and go to Willie’s house.


27 posted on 04/27/2015 1:16:36 AM PDT by aquila48
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To: Jack Black

And do we need him?


28 posted on 04/27/2015 1:20:32 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: allendale

This article is drivel.


29 posted on 04/27/2015 2:02:09 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer

——This article is drivel.——

You are being way too kind...


30 posted on 04/27/2015 2:18:32 AM PDT by Popman (Christ Alone: My Cornerstone...)
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Did you see his little sleeper sentence that said (in effect) that most of the looters were white? Nice one, that. Subliminally hidden by surrounding spews of bullsh!t.

I’d invite him to show me the numerous MSMs pics of it. Heck, show me even on picture where that is true.


31 posted on 04/27/2015 2:37:08 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

ping.


32 posted on 04/27/2015 3:36:32 AM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
There are hundreds, thousands of leftist Willie Osterweils around the country cranking out anti-establishment screeds like this one on a weekly basis. None of them of worth paying much attention to.

Doubtless, if the Osterweils of the nation suddenly came upon a pile of money or property, they wouldn't be quite so charitable as they are now with other people's property.

33 posted on 04/27/2015 3:39:55 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Recently an Instagram video circulated of a Ferguson protester discussing the looting and burning of the QuikTrip convenience store. He retorts the all too common accusation thrown at rioters: “People wanna say we destroying our own neighborhoods. We don’t own nothing out here!” This is the crux of the matter,

This isn't the entire cruz of the matter, but it's an important element. The black community needs more entrepreneurs. They exist, here and there, but the hustling small business community in the inner cities is heavily immigrant. The people who are out rioting would never dream of starting a business. They are looking for the next government check, or if they have some self-respect, for a government job. In their view, prosperity is given by government, and it is maldistributed. I don't know how to change the culture, but I would go out of my way to patronize a black-owned business, if we had one in the neighborhood. But the Koreans own everything.

34 posted on 04/27/2015 4:10:04 AM PDT by sphinx
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Areas with a higher percentage of conservatives don’t seem to have this problem.....


35 posted on 04/27/2015 4:10:56 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Billthedrill

Heh heh — I hear you. It’s a really good read. I think you’ll like it.


36 posted on 04/27/2015 4:19:33 AM PDT by Yardstick
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To: aquila48

A failure to prosper within a culture for whatever reason leads to marginalization.


37 posted on 04/27/2015 5:10:21 AM PDT by allendale
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To: sphinx

I was stationed in Korea for two tours. The Koreans are some of the hardest working people on this planet and are usually natural businesspeople.


38 posted on 04/27/2015 7:22:46 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can help: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBTX0095/)
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To: Jack Black; Admin Moderator; Jim Robinson; hlmencken3; rmlew; Nachum; dervish; Yehuda; ...
You know, anyone can inadvertently post a link to an anti-Jewish web site (since some contain articles with no objectionable content). The article you are linking to is one you posted here and was pulled by the mods because the web site is anti-Jewish, anti-chrstian, neo-pagan, and racialist. Now that the thread has been pulled you link back to the original anti-Jewish neo-pagan site. Obviously this is not a mistake on your part.

Your profile page says you've been here since 1998. While there were some great FReepers around back then (you've been here longer than I), there were also all sorts of nasty Jew-haters and national socialists slithering around. Are you one of their number?

There are any number of articles exposing not only he Communist/Marxist connections of contemporary Black rioters but the sad fact that almost the entire Black American community has sold out completely and allied itself with absolute evil (and btw, being evil is far more serious than being biologically "inferior"). Yet you chose to post and now to link to a site whose solution is not G-d A-mighty and His Laws but biological racialism and a rejection of the Biblical G-d to such an extent that it favors neo-paganism over chrstianity. Just what are you trying to accomplish here?

I advise some serious soul-searching--not about "racism" or "bigotry" or "prejudice" or any of that lefty multi-culti nonsense but about how loyal you are to the G-d Who created you.

39 posted on 04/28/2015 12:47:27 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (The "end of history" will be Worldwide Judaic Theocracy.)
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The link in this thread was posted days ago, long before the thread I created today was pulled.

I found the article useful. I was introduced to Richard Spencer by Lawrence Auster, who was himself Jewish. Auster was uncompromising in refusing to deal with anti semites. I don’t believe he would have allowed Richard Spencer to interview him if Auster considered him one.

The site has articles on many topics, including conservative Catholic and Orthodox Christian revival.


40 posted on 04/28/2015 1:25:57 PM PDT by Jack Black ( Disarmament of a targeted group is one of the surest early warning signs of future genocide.)
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