[1_Rain_Drop]

What exactly are down state taxes giving Upstaters?

[proxy_user]

Their taxes pay a lot of the welfare benefits upstate. Of course, without downstate, they probably wouldn’t need welfare benefits....

[Dilbert56]

When we lived in Shokan our property taxes were trivial. The money NYC paid for the water in the Shokan reservoir made them so.

This article is spot on. We left upstate NY two years ago. Wasted a year in NJ. We're in PA now, with the 3% state + 1% county flat income tax. The people (upper Bucks County) are very friendly. Weather is less severe. Economy here seems vibrant; Help wanted signs abound.

We had moved to the Southern Tier in 1986, before IBM, Singer-Link, GE, EJ, etc. slashed their payrolls or went belly up. Endicott seemed to be dying when we left it in 2013. Seemed if upstate ended up with only three people left, two would vote for fracking and the other would sue.