one's enough
Posted on 04/19/2015 4:52:45 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
one's enough
I tend to think there are more Thugees in the post50 crowd than the young crowd.
Not necessarily, but many wars in the l2th century were fought over much less than the potential extinction of an entire society. Consider that you won't find many Shakers around these days.
At its peak in the mid 19th century, there were 6,000 Shaker believers. By 1920, there were only 12 Shaker communities remaining in the United States. There is only one active Shaker village, Sabbathday Lake Shaker Village, which is located in Maine. Their celibacy resulted in the thinning of the Shaker community, and consequently many of the other Shaker settlements are now village museums, like Hancock Shaker Village in Massachusetts.Ideas have consequences, as does action and inaction.
Regardless, my main point was that the article's description of the Albigensian Crusade is revisionist history.
Here's the entry from the Encyclopedia Britannica on the Albigensian Crusade:
Albigensian Crusade, Crusade (1209–29) called by Pope Innocent III against the Cathari, a dualist religious movement in southern France that the Roman Catholic Church had branded heretical. The war pitted the nobility of staunchly Catholic northern France against that of the south, where the Cathari were tolerated and even enjoyed the support of the nobles. Although the Crusade did not eliminate Catharism, it eventually enabled the French king to establish his authority over the south.And that's the rest of the story.Historical background
By the middle of the 12th century, control of Jerusalem and the Holy Land was no longer the only goal of the Crusades. Rather, Crusading became a special class of war called by the pope against the enemies of the faith, who were by no means confined to the Levant. Crusades continued in the Baltic region against pagans and in Spain against Muslims. Yet in the heart of Europe a more serious threat faced Christendom: heresy, which was viewed in the medieval world not as benign religious diversity but rather as a cancerous threat to the salvation of souls. It was held to be even more dangerous than the faraway Muslims, because it harmed the body of Christ from within.
The most vibrant heresy in Europe was Catharism, also known as Albigensianism—for Albi, a city in southern France where it flourished. Catharism held that the universe was a battleground between good, which was spirit, and evil, which was matter. Human beings were believed to be spirits trapped in physical bodies. The leaders of the religion, the perfect, lived with great austerity, remaining chaste and avoiding all foods that came from sexual union.
The Roman Catholic Church had attempted for years to root out the heresy from southern France, where it remained popular, particularly among the nobility. St. Dominic, who was sent to the region to preach to the people and debate the Cathar leaders, formed his Order of Preachers (Dominicans) in response to the heresy. All efforts at eradication failed, however, largely because of the tolerance of the Cathari maintained by Raymond VI of Toulouse, the greatest baron of the area, and by most secular lords in the region. Shortly after his excommunication for abetting the heretics, Raymond was implicated in the murder of a papal legate sent to investigate the situation. For Innocent III that was the final straw. In March 1208 he called for a Crusade against Raymond and the heretics of Languedoc, which began the following year.
The Crusade to 1215
The Albigensian Crusade was immensely popular in northern France because it gave pious warriors an opportunity to win a Crusade indulgence (a remission from punishment in the afterlife for sin) without traveling far from home or serving more than 40 days. During the first season the Crusaders captured Béziers in the heart of Cathar territory and—following the instructions of a papal legate who allegedly said, “Kill them all. God will know his own,” when asked how the Crusaders should distinguish the heretics from true Christians—massacred almost the entire population of the city. With the exception of Carcassonne, which held out for a few months, much of the territory of the Albigeois surrendered to the Crusaders. Command of the Crusade was then given to Simon, lord of Montfort and earl of Leicester, who had served during the Fourth Crusade (1202–04).
The Albigensian Crusade dragged on for several years, with new recruits arriving each spring to assist Simon. By the end of each summer, however, they would all return home, leaving him with a skeleton force to defend his gains. By 1215, when the fourth Lateran Council met to consider the state of the church, Simon had captured most of the region, including Toulouse. The council gave the lands to Simon and then rescinded the Crusade indulgence for the war so that a new Crusade to the East could be organized.
End of the Crusade
A few years later a rebellion against the northerners that crystallized around Raymond and his son, Raymond VII, recaptured much lost territory. Simon was killed during a siege of Toulouse. The Albigensian Crusade was finally brought to a close by the French King Louis VIII. Although he died soon after his victory in the south, Louis restored northern control over the region in 1226 and dashed the hopes of Raymond’s family for an independent Toulouse. In 1229 the younger Raymond accepted a peace treaty through which all his ancestral lands would go to the royal house of the Capetians at his death. It was, therefore, the French crown, which came to the Crusade quite late, that was the ultimate victor.
For all of its violence and destruction, the Albigensian Crusade failed to remove the Cathar heresy from Languedoc. It did, however, provide a solid framework of new secular lords willing to work with the church against the heretics. Through the subsequent efforts of the Inquisition, which was established by the papacy in the 13th century to try heretics, Catharism was virtually eliminated in Languedoc within a century.
Lollol
Interesting. A good catch. Thanks.
The Vehme - medieval vigilante court who tracked down and tried criminals in southern Germany
Often the local ruling nobility were appointed honorary
judges
Supposedly elemenys the vehme still exist.......
I can’t believe they left out the KGC. :-)
Probably didn’t know about it. Or they felt it was hand-in-glove with the Confederacy and therefore not “secret” I suppose.
Maybe. But it was secret enough that there are still people today who don’t believe the KGC ever existed. :-)
No Freemasons? No Illuminati?
How are the Freemasons a secret? They have a chapter house in just about every village, hamlet, town and city.
“How are the Freemasons a secret?”
That they exist is not secret, but what they do behind closed door is a secret.
No KKK? It sould have been listed.
No Skull & Bones??
Star Chamber..... ;o)
Yes.
But that's not love. It's indifference.
The opposite of love isn't hate. It's indifference. (Rev. 3:15-16)
You would have had a number of them give up on the sect and come back. The desire to have children and a family is very much part of human nature.
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