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Greenfield: The Deconstruction of Marriage
Sultan Knish blog ^ | Wednesday, April 15, 2015 | Daniel Greenfield

Posted on 04/15/2015 4:58:04 PM PDT by Louis Foxwell

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To: stephenjohnbanker
Population control is a factor to some leftists, but this is to destroy the family,and religion, and leave homosexuals blameless in public for their evil lifestyle.

It's a devilish plan to destroy mankind.

41 posted on 04/15/2015 6:43:01 PM PDT by oldbrowser (We have a rogue government in Washington)
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To: Louis Foxwell

Thanks for the suggestion. I mentioned this in a comment on his blog.

I think Greenfield is an amazing social analyst and writer, but someone so prolific is bound to miss a point here and there. That said, he may have hired an editor (or had one volunteer). His essays are a bit tidier, grammatically, than they used to be.


42 posted on 04/15/2015 6:46:00 PM PDT by Tax-chick (I'm a radical feminist. Galatians 3:28)
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To: Louis Foxwell

Yet, some people marry. And do what is right.


43 posted on 04/15/2015 6:54:54 PM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: oldbrowser

These are some truly evil people.


44 posted on 04/15/2015 7:01:21 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: sitetest

Fewer, however, than in many earlier time periods. They don’t have to eliminate natural marriage to bring about societal chaos: just chip away a big chunk. That was done with non-marital childbearing a long time before homosexuality and gender-madness became the height of fashion.


45 posted on 04/15/2015 7:01:36 PM PDT by Tax-chick (I'm a radical feminist. Galatians 3:28)
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To: Tax-chick; Louis Foxwell

” I think Greenfield is an amazing social analyst and writer, “

Yep. I read them all.


46 posted on 04/15/2015 7:03:03 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: Tax-chick
Dear Tax-chick,

Don't burst my bubble. LOL.

My future daughter-in-law was received into the Church this Easter Vigil, and for now, I have hope.


sitetest

47 posted on 04/15/2015 7:09:45 PM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: sitetest

May your hope be rewarded abundantly, starting with your “future” daughter-in-law’s becoming your actual daughter-in-law.


48 posted on 04/15/2015 7:13:12 PM PDT by Tax-chick (I'm a radical feminist. Galatians 3:28)
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To: Tax-chick
Dear Tax-chick,

Well, there are many a slip between cup and lip, but these two seem pretty serious.


sitetest

49 posted on 04/15/2015 7:16:15 PM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: sitetest

Best wishes. I hope they make it to 50+ years.

None of my kids is serious ... or even casual, I think. Anoreth has her career and dog, and “People who want to be my boyfriend.” Bill has school and a job. Tom has friends who play Dungeon and Dragons. Elen has six brothers and thinks males are disgusting. Etc.


50 posted on 04/15/2015 7:19:13 PM PDT by Tax-chick (I'm a radical feminist. Galatians 3:28)
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To: Louis Foxwell

Dear Daniel, I think the article is speaking truth. I think it is explaining a real problem. But it needs to be boiled down to a cutting soundbite. That’s something conservatives need to help batter down the doors of the SCOTUS. Hillary repeated the left’s mantra about homosexual marriage “Sad this new Indiana law can happen in America today. We shouldn’t discriminate against people because of who they love...”

We disagree with it, but it encapsulates their position and clubs their opposition, all in one short line.

“Defining concepts controls our thoughts, and we are allowing others to define the critical institution of marriage.”

Just doesn’t ring, does it? Even though it’s true.


51 posted on 04/15/2015 7:21:16 PM PDT by xzins (Donate to the Freep-a-Thon or lose your ONLY voice. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Louis Foxwell

bump for later


52 posted on 04/15/2015 7:26:35 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (The greatest danger facing our world: the marriage of militant Islam with nuclear weapons.-Netanyahu)
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To: Tax-chick
Dear Tax-chick,

Thanks.

Although he despaired of the mission when he first went off to college, my older son has always been very marriage-minded. He just figured, there would be no nice, chaste, friendly Catholic girls interested in marriage.

He was wrong.

They lined up.

Some of them were willing to change their religion.

Marriage-minded men can be quite popular in some circles. Especially when they're witty, tall, handsome, and moderately kind.

His younger brother is likewise interested, but went to college a year early, and although there are any number of young ladies who flirt with him mercilessly, I think it will be next year before the fedora-wearing, trench-coated college radio station jazz DJ comes into his own, shedding mathematical cool wherever he goes, garnering extra accolades for being the younger brother of his older brother.


sitetest

53 posted on 04/15/2015 7:44:33 PM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: sitetest

I wonder if the problem is that my children think marriage means ten kids and a lot of rice and beans. Anoreth and Bill have high-end taste in cars. They both want to work in automotive marketing.


54 posted on 04/15/2015 7:48:49 PM PDT by Tax-chick (I'm a radical feminist. Galatians 3:28)
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To: sitetest

Tom wears a fedora. Bill was offered a modeling job at a cool store, I forget which one. The pay wasn’t enough to make it worth the gas money.


55 posted on 04/15/2015 7:50:35 PM PDT by Tax-chick (I'm a radical feminist. Galatians 3:28)
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To: Tax-chick
Dear Tax-chick,

I don't think it has much of an effect. Although we only had two, we know a lot of large families. I'm thinking of one - seven kids. Father's an underpaid college professor, the mother homeschooled all seven. Four have either graduated from, or are in college.

They're not all grown, but they're getting there. The first two graduated college and couldn't wait to get married. They had their husband picked out by the end of freshman year. And they married the two poor fellows.

They were married last June, one of them just had her first baby (10 months - we counted). The next child is ambivalent toward marriage. For now. She's experiencing freedom in college - nothing too crazy - but wants to enjoy it before settling down. The next is bound and determined to be a nun. The younger three seem happy with the idea vaguely of growing up, finding someone right, and settling down.

Each one evaluated their family differently. Some of the children just want to marry, have lots of kids, just like mama and papa, and live in a cramped old house and be a big, happy family. Some of the kids would like to explore, see what the world is like. Get to eat steak. Travel.

In other large families, I see this sort of diversity. It takes a while to develop. But we see kids who want to marry and settle down and do what mom and dad did, we see a fair number of vocations, even where we see kids who are ambivalent about their means and circumstances growing up, they seem to appreciate having been from a large, close-knit family.

In some ways, these larger families seem more diverse to me. My sons are like guided missiles - one-track minds. They want to marry, they want families, they want what mom and dad have, only lots more of what mom and dad have. My future daughter-in-law might not go for 10, but they're hoping for five or more. She comes from a small family, too. It's like, my kids know they're on an “endangered species list” and so are much more oriented toward procreating their way off the list. But kids from large families seem to assume that someone will eventually marry and have kids, so the pressure's not on any one child.

There is one family that we know, they have fourteen or so, I've lost track. Generations are starting to overlap.


sitetest

56 posted on 04/15/2015 8:12:58 PM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: Tax-chick
Dear Tax-chick,

My older son picked up wearing strange hats in high school. He regularly wore a pith helmet to school, which often provoked strange conversations with teachers. My younger son adopted the fedora habit as a consequence. He wears it very well. He's grown his hair out this year, a bit. This makes his older brother angry, as he thinks the younger one “gets away” with all sorts of stuff.

But life was more difficult for my younger son. Many more trials.

If he wants to wear a fedora and grow his hair out a little, I can live with that.


sitetest

57 posted on 04/15/2015 8:24:15 PM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: Louis Foxwell
Gone as in ZAPPED!

You're gullible.

At least as of last week.

Yeah... you pronounce me "gone" after my post #26 on that thread.
After which I posted several more times. So in addition to gullible
I'm guessing you aren't too bright either.

Or you wouldn't be posting so many duplicates, huh?

58 posted on 04/16/2015 4:46:44 AM PDT by humblegunner (NOW with even more AWESOMENESS)
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To: sitetest

My mother paid Tom to get his hair cut last fall. She wanted a picture that showed his face, when he turned 18.

As Jamie-our-hairdresser was clipping away, Tom was calculating how much it would grow before he goes back to his summer camp job this June. Apparently his overgrown Beatles ‘do was considered way cool by the young Boy Scouts.

Yesterday he was telling me he wants to get some better clothes, which makes me wonder if he’s somehow met a girl. I started to ask if he’d also like a haircut, but he cut me off before I got three words out.


59 posted on 04/16/2015 4:49:08 AM PDT by Tax-chick (I'm a radical feminist. Galatians 3:28)
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To: humblegunner

I searched your name several times and received the notification that your account had been suspended or banned.


60 posted on 04/16/2015 5:52:12 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (This is a wake up call. Join the Sultan Knish ping list.)
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