[JRandomFreeper]

You certainly have a lot of romantic ideas about what is required.

I'll rely on my 2 years of experience, living without running water and without electricity, on the side of a mountain from summer through winter.

Experience beats theorizing any day.

/johnny

[familyop]

"You certainly have a lot of romantic ideas about what is required.

I'll rely on my 2 years of experience, living without running water and without electricity, on the side of a mountain from summer through winter.

Experience beats theorizing any day."

Good point! That would be nice and easy at a low elevation in New Mexico for only two years. Alright, preppies, "bug out" on foot to the New Mexico or Texas hills, 'cause it's much safer than high elevations in mountains far to the north of there.

But be sure that you can carry at least six gallons of water for each person for every twenty miles that you hike out of the city. And remember that the roads will be blocked by stalled vehicles and roadblocks in the event of an EMP disaster. You might reconsider the draft animals and wagon (as used in the 1800s).

Thanks for the good point. NM and TX would be much safer destinations for TEOTWAWKI than say, higher altitudes in CO or WY. Winter can get pretty ugly for folks roughing it with temps in the minus-30s and 110 mph wind gusts (more than two years' experience).

Summer can be difficult, too, with some 40-mile or more stretches between towns, frequent wildfires and smoke, no road shoulders, high passes, surface water bad for drinking, property owners more aggressive against trespassers, more predators, etc. And there have already been plans and training to clear public land areas to prevent conflicts, lacks of resources, hypothermia, heat exhaustion, sanitation problems resulting from the former, etc.

And remember the local attitude and bumper sticker in CO, "Gaper, Go Home!"