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Despite Alarming Reports, No Proof (Yet) Co-Pilot Andreas Lubitz Converted To Islam
ClashDaily.com ^ | 3/27/15 | Donald Joy

Posted on 03/27/2015 10:00:54 AM PDT by IChing

I’m usually an eager relayer of well-founded theories and clues which help get the truth out when politically-correct authorities try to hide or minimize the Islamic identity of jihad attackers, but in the case of Andreas Lubitz I must firmly state that so far (as of 3:00 am EST, U.S.), people are posting only completely unsubstantiated, non-credible reports that he was a convert to Islam.

In the early absence of much solid information about the 28-year-old pilot’s personal life the internet is, of course, going wild with speculation about Lubitz’ motives for deliberately crashing the plane full of innocent people into a mountain, and stories about him supposedly joining “the religion of peace” before doing it as an act of jihad are swirling around.

The people making such claims — if there was really anything to them — would be putting all sorts of verifiable specifics (or at least one or two checkable sources/facts) into their blog posts and articles to back up such an important allegation. However, they aren’t, so the fact is that they’re just trolls stirring up hysteria in order to generate traffic to their websites.

I believe it’s possible that Lubitz was a Muslim convert, but so far nothing credible has been made public to support that angle.

Certain internet posts in particular have gone viral, stating as if it’s fact that Lubitz converted to Islam. One of them, an article from a highly dubious German “news” website, has been translated into English and spread by The Gateway Pundit blog. The article’s headline bluntly states: The co-pilot of the Germanwings Airbus was a convert to Islam. In it, the writer says “All evidence indicates” that Lubitz’ conversion to Islam took place during his unexpected 6-month hiatus from pilot training (reported elsewhere as due to depression and “burnout”), and that he “was staying often” at a radical mosque in Bremen, Germany, where his flight school was located.

None of those claims are attributed to any source whatsoever; not even anyone described as “wishing to remain anonymous” is cited.

Another blog, St Thomas Aquinas Versus NASA, flatly declares in its headline: Muslim Convert Co-Pilot Andreas Gunter Lubitz Committed Jihad. In that post, without naming a single source, the writer states:

“It was said that Lubitz had a Muslim girlfriend. It is unclear if she was still dating Lubitz at the time of the crash. It is unclear if he met her through his Muslims(sic) friends.”

The blogger in question goes on to insist, without any verifiable support whatsoever, that he or she knows that Lubitz converted to Islam during his break from pilot training in Bremen.

As most readers are already aware, actual Islamic jihadists have wasted no time jubilantly claiming Lubitz as one of their own, creating social media pages heralding Lubitz as a hero for Islam, and celebrating the murders of so many innocent passengers and crew on behalf of their systematic Mohammedan terror reign.

For me, the most compelling information so far related to Lubitz’ possible motives has to do with the long, unplanned break in his pilot training, reported widely as being due to depression and burnout, and the revelation from police saying they had made a “significant discovery” of something — “not a suicide note” — inside his apartment, something which “may be a clue” to what happened to the doomed jet, and which has been “sent for tests.”

We can be certain that a tsunami of fresh information is about to break out all over the media and internet about the details of Andreas Lubitz’ personal life, and about the facts and circumstances leading up to his dastardly, murderous act. We can be just as certain that not all of it will be reliable.

I’m literally on the edge of my seat typing this, waiting, just like you are if you read this far.

About one thing I’m extremely confident, and in contrary to politically-correct sources: If it turns out that Andreas Lubitz was a Muslim convert, you can bet your last Euro it had to do with what he did.


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: andreaslubitz; bremen; france; germanwings; germany; lubitz; lubitzreligion; lufthansa; terrorism
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To: Labyrinthos

If you have any verifiable evidence other than anonymous rumor, blogs, and other forms of speculation, THAT IT WAS NOT A MUSLIM TERRORIST ATTCK, then please share it with us.


21 posted on 03/27/2015 10:38:27 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Yosemitest

Except that NO Muslim connections have been substantiated by anyone, anywhere. Pay attention. Read, comprehend, and desist from perpetuating the same crap this thread is intended to vet and debunk. If you have something that is verifiably substantiated, by all means post it, but don’t post spurious garbage without credibility.


22 posted on 03/27/2015 10:38:54 AM PDT by IChing
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To: Sherman Logan

Apparently, rumor now serves as irrefutable evidence.


23 posted on 03/27/2015 10:39:19 AM PDT by Oliviaforever
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To: IChing

http://www.press-report.co.uk/andrea-lubitz-muslim-convert

Multiple articles. You might find something interesting.


24 posted on 03/27/2015 10:40:26 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!)
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To: Oliviaforever

Unfortunately the masses of sheeple just swallow whatever floats across their screens....that goes for our side, too...


25 posted on 03/27/2015 10:40:53 AM PDT by IChing
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To: IChing
WRONG!
Read Comment #8 and read the initial source the article linked to.
26 posted on 03/27/2015 10:41:38 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Yosemitest

I remember last summer when the leftists went wild after the shooting in Ferguson, MO. Although many people tried and convicted Officer Wilson based upon mere rumors and speculations, here at FR, the general consensus was that we should wait for all the facts to come in before drawing conclusions. I urge the same restraint here.


27 posted on 03/27/2015 10:42:32 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: Texas Fossil

Nope. You thought I didn’t research my article? Did you bother to read it?


28 posted on 03/27/2015 10:44:00 AM PDT by IChing
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To: Labyrinthos
The links in the initial article, if you go to them, so Muslim Connections.
Read comment #8.
29 posted on 03/27/2015 10:45:07 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Nevadan

“....unresolved conflicts in his mind about the sanctity of Western values.”

Clearly, he had a problem with authority, regarding his non-response to the repeated requests of the pilot that he unlock the door, a simple matter of flipping the switch. Also, he had to know that he was taking the lives of 149 others along with him, no different, actually, than a lone shooter standing up in a crowded movie theater and unleashing gunfire on the other unsuspecting patrons of that theater, just a different weapon is all. And the destruction of a highly sophisticated machine whose purpose is to transport a number of individuals from one point to another, shows a total disregard for the property rights of others.

Do I know this for an irrefutable fact? Nobody can really peer into the mind of another, and know their motives, but we can certain look at actions carried out, and infer a great deal. Can we infer motive? Maybe not, but we can sure assess the mischief done.


30 posted on 03/27/2015 10:45:11 AM PDT by alloysteel (It isn't science, it's law. Rational thought does not apply.)
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To: IChing

Yep, I did.


31 posted on 03/27/2015 10:45:19 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!)
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To: Labyrinthos
The links in the initial article, if you go to them, show Muslim Connections.
Read comment #8.
32 posted on 03/27/2015 10:45:31 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Yosemitest

HEY, genius! If you read my article, you’d have found that I’d ALREADY DEBUNKED THAT EXACT SAME CRAP you posted, word-for-word!

Sheesh, why, oh Lord, WHY are people so stupid??


33 posted on 03/27/2015 10:45:53 AM PDT by IChing
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To: IChing

“Unfortunately the masses of sheeple just swallow whatever floats across their screens....that goes for our side, too...”

That would be Selective Perception.


34 posted on 03/27/2015 10:46:18 AM PDT by Oliviaforever
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To: IChing
You have not debunked it.
Your very words PROVE he had MUSLIM CONNECTIONS.
35 posted on 03/27/2015 10:47:24 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Yosemitest

Go take a course in logic and come back if by chance you are able to pass. Sign up for reading comprehension while you’re at it.

You didn’t even read nor check the links in my article, did you? Do you not even realize that just saying something without citing a verifiable source doesn’t equate to substantiation?


36 posted on 03/27/2015 10:48:40 AM PDT by IChing
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To: Yosemitest; Sherman Logan

“Muslim FRIENDS?
Really?

Hang around EVIL long enough, and it infects you.”

So, if you have a muslim friend, we can now assume that motivates you? What if you have a friend who has a muslim friend?

Soon we’ll be playing “six degrees of radicalization”. Better just to stick with facts we know, I think.


37 posted on 03/27/2015 10:48:44 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Yosemitest

Oh really? Which words, and how do they “prove” it?

Are you even able to discern which words are mine, and which are ones I quoted?


38 posted on 03/27/2015 10:50:31 AM PDT by IChing
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To: Yosemitest

“Only an IDIOT would believe...”

In my experience, people who think that this passes for argument are usually intimately familiar with what idiots believe.


39 posted on 03/27/2015 10:50:33 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Yosemitest
If you have any verifiable evidence other than anonymous rumor, blogs, and other forms of speculation, THAT IT WAS NOT A MUSLIM TERRORIST ATTCK, then please share it with us.

By your logic, I must beat my wife unless I can prove that I don't, and I must have robbed the gas station down the street from my office last night, unless I can prove that I didn't.

40 posted on 03/27/2015 10:50:55 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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