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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I disagree.

It’s not about the design of our Constitution.

It’s about the execution of it.


7 posted on 03/04/2015 8:17:32 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: UCANSEE2; Sherman Logan; moovova; Michael.SF.; ModelBreaker
The design, the structure of government isn't important? Men were just as corrupt or virtuous in 1787 as now. That the was the great challenge at the federal convention, how to design a government with sufficient power to meet the needs of the nation, yet also respect our rights.

History had shown that separation of power was the key, and a senate of the states was crucial. It wasn't until after the structure of the senate was determined in July 1787 that the states agreed to give up their powers in Article I Section 10, and grant the powers of Section 8 to the new government. Their presence in the senate was regarded a sufficient safeguard.

Ratification of the constitution itself was contingent on a senate of the states. It wouldn't have happened if congress was composed of two popularly derived bodies.

Our history, pre and post 17th Amendment bears witness, for the federal government largely stayed within its box before 1913. We wouldn't be staring at tyranny today without the 17th Amendment.

37 posted on 03/05/2015 1:17:22 AM PST by Jacquerie (Article V. If not now, when?)
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To: UCANSEE2

The president in modern times has way too much power. That needs to be addressed.


40 posted on 03/05/2015 2:32:28 AM PST by Carry me back (.)
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