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Vandalism in Arizona shows the Internet's vulnerability
AP via Tulsa World ^ | 3/1/15

Posted on 03/01/2015 2:37:18 PM PST by Kartographer

Computers, cellphones and landlines in Arizona were knocked out of service for hours, ATMs stopped working, 911 systems were disrupted and businesses were unable to process credit-card transactions — all because vandals sliced through a fiber-optic Internet cable buried in the rocky desert. The Internet outage did more than underscore just how dependent modern society has become on high technology.

(Excerpt) Read more at tulsaworld.com ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Conspiracy
KEYWORDS: az; internet
Yeah it was vandels, yeah that's what it was just everyday vandelism, yeah I can belive that.
1 posted on 03/01/2015 2:37:18 PM PST by Kartographer
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To: Kartographer
Well the professional vandals are fixin to take over.


2 posted on 03/01/2015 2:49:14 PM PST by cripplecreek ("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
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Hi Kartographer,

Your other (dupe) copy of this thread got pulled, but that was the one with the list ping. You might want to re-ping the list, since the ping doesn't work.

Thanks, Dayglored

3 posted on 03/01/2015 2:54:23 PM PST by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is...sounding pretty good about now.)
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To: Kartographer

Just another reason why the government needs to control the internet...for security reasons/s


4 posted on 03/01/2015 2:58:30 PM PST by teacherwoes (Alethephobia-fear of hearing the truth)
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To: Kartographer

Does anyone know if the vandals were praising Allah while doing their dirty work?


5 posted on 03/01/2015 3:00:52 PM PST by Mark17 (Calvary's love has never faltered, all it's wonder still remains. Souls still take eternal passage)
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To: Kartographer
Vandalism in Arizona shows the Internet's vulnerability

Bah! That ain't nothin'. You want to cause trouble, knock over one of the DNS root servers.

(No, don't. Really.)

6 posted on 03/01/2015 3:05:31 PM PST by Lee N. Field ("And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's offspring, heirs according to promise" Gal 3:29)
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To: Kartographer
From TFA:
The cable that was severed isn’t hard to spot because the trenching machines used to bury it leave a scar on the landscape, he said.

“I could take a couple of shovels, and one or two people, a six-pack of beer, find a place that’s hidden with not much traffic, and I could have a little party,” Hobbs said. “It would be a trivial task to dig up one of these cables. They’re not guarded, and they’re not protected.”

Hobbs said CenturyLink should be discussing why the lines weren’t backed up and whether there are enough alternative routes for data. “People should be embarrassed that this has happened and that they hadn’t planned for a better outcome,” he said.

This should be a Big Freakin' Deal because it flies in the face of one of the most basic principles of the design of the Internet -- that there is always an alternate data route. The only exception is "last-mile" connections to residential and business customers.

WTH were these people thinking???

7 posted on 03/01/2015 3:07:16 PM PST by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is...sounding pretty good about now.)
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The telecom infrastructure is actually somewhat brittle. I took a course in internet economics through UC Santa Cruz Extension many years back, taught by a guy with some pretty interesting friends. To demonstrate the how fragile the internet actually was, he described an aging bridge across the Missouri River whose supports carried both the Sprint and AT&T's fiber for the internet. If that bridge had come down we would have effectively had no internet for while. At the time I was commuting to work on CalTrain and every morning, just north of the Chronicle printing plant, we went through a tunnel with two conduits, one labeled "Sprint", one labeled "AT&T". I took a picture of them with the camera on my cell phone and showed it to him. He just about fell down laughing. He described to the class the activities going on in a certain building on Spear Street in San Francisco that were being performed by people in Maryland he was consulting for (I think this may have violated his ND). Regarding my 1.3 megapixel image he said "Now you all know how easy it would be to take down San Francisco."

Currently I have a team lead who worked for 40 years or so for AZ telcos from Mountain Bell through Quest. He remembers when the copper that served all of South AZ at the time, also out of Phoenix Main, was backhoed during a construction project. Some highly placed people lost their jobs over that one. Wonder whose heads will roll over this?

8 posted on 03/01/2015 3:24:47 PM PST by InABunkerUnderSF (Flu season: Wash your hands.)
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9 posted on 03/01/2015 3:33:53 PM PST by RedMDer (Keep Free Republic Alive with YOUR Donations!)
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bttt


10 posted on 03/01/2015 3:44:20 PM PST by TEXOKIE (We must surrender only to our Holy God and never to the evil that has befallen us.)
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what happened to redundant fiber rings....thing of the past,to expensive,myth?


11 posted on 03/01/2015 3:50:58 PM PST by CGASMIA68
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To: dayglored

Why dig there are loads in the air


12 posted on 03/01/2015 3:54:34 PM PST by CGASMIA68
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To: Kartographer

This is from the Tulsa World. I remember a few years back when someone with a chainsaw wrecked havoc on a Tulsa telephone underground cubicle. It was a mess for quite a while.


13 posted on 03/01/2015 4:08:04 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: dayglored
WTH were these people thinking???

The consideration of the companies that provide internet infrastructure is the basic relationship of telecommunications economics: "If arpu << opex telco goes broke." Translation: If the average revenue per user is less that the operational expense of the network YOUR telecom company WILL go broke.

This is more of a problem in the Mountain West than in most places. Population densities drop off quick outside the major cities and distances are long. This means low revenues and high infrastructure costs. Which means that you can have all of the layer 2-7 redundancy you want but if there is only one fiber run from Phoenix to Flagstaff and some guy gets loose with a shovel and a pair of bolt cutters, you're screwed. And you aren't going to guard all 150 miles of fiber run.

Running fiber is the expensive part. For Flagstaff, the reasonable thing to do would be to run fiber from Phoenix Main up highway 87 all the way to Winslow and then backhaul it along the rail lines to Flagstaff - assuming there isn't already fiber there, which is probable. The problem is, every Green in the State of Arizona will be fighting you every foot of the way for 200 miles and you will have to cross the land of the Tonto Apache - and if you think their warriors were fierce in the 19th century you ought to see their lawyers in the 21st. Big casino revenues buys good lawyers. (I think that's an Apache saying, don't know how old.) There will be a price to be paid. So the question is, is it worth having a redundant path between Phoenix and Flagstaff? The I17 corridor is growing but I doubt the revenues would support the necessary infrastructure investment at this time.

14 posted on 03/01/2015 4:11:22 PM PST by InABunkerUnderSF (Flu season: Wash your hands.)
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To: InABunkerUnderSF

Excellent post. Thanks for your erudite explanation.


15 posted on 03/01/2015 4:51:43 PM PST by marktwain
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