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To: Chainmail

On another thread on this topic someone said you should fire at least once indoors with no hearing protection so that the deafening blast (.45!) doesn’t discombobulate your defensive stance.

Again, three hits failed to instantly kill the robber. Scary.


6 posted on 02/21/2015 4:51:09 AM PST by elcid1970 ("I: am a radicalized infidel.")
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To: elcid1970
Humans are amazingly resilient - particularly if they're high on something. I had many instances to see people hit by different things (Vietnam '66-'67) and an astonishing number survived horrible hits and kept going.

We had one of our favorite "duty heroes" (a guy who always seemed to be rescuing somebody else no matter what the danger level was) go after a VC who ran away when he was spotted. Big John chased him out into an open rice paddy and finally caught up with him about 200m away from us in plain sight. The VC turned, dropped down on one knee and pulled a pistol and shot Big John in the face point blank. We went from laughing to rage and took aim at the VC - but Big John got up, face covered in blood and took his M16 and shattered it over that VC's head, then dragged his inert body by the scruff of his neck back to us. We sat Big John on a stump and a corpsman washed the blood from his face and the bullet hole was right in the center of the bridge of his nose and blood was coming out of his mouth in a steady stream and Big John's eyes were wide and he was barely responsive. The Corpsman opened his mouth and saw that the pistol bullet had deflected down through the roof of his mouth and was stuck in Big John's tongue! He easily removed it and after a couple of weeks at Charlie Med in Danang, Big John was back to us.

Humans are resilient, particularly if they are stubborn 6 foot 4 Marines..

7 posted on 02/21/2015 5:16:36 AM PST by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: elcid1970

“Again, three hits failed to instantly kill the robber. Scary.”

I have to disagree.
. One round hit the perp’s weapon (from an earlier post). I do not know where the first shot hit, but there is lots of places a hit with a .45 would not be fatal. Third appeared to do the job.
We also do not know what ammunition was in the gun. Factory ammunition or reload? light or heavy projectile? Light or heavy powder charge? Cast bullet or jacketed? FMJ or Hollow Point?


8 posted on 02/21/2015 5:16:44 AM PST by Tupelo (I feel more like Philip Nolan by the day)
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To: elcid1970

Many years ago, working at a trauma hospital, we had a guy come in that had hit a semi head on in a little thing of a car. His body was jello, but he stilled lived for a while after arrival. Took awhile for all of his organs to finally shut down.

Another time, had a gal that had went through the windshield and broken her neck at c2. She had landed in snow, which prolonged her life until someone stumbled across her accident. By the time she arrived at the emergency room, her heart was just pumping blood to her brain, no pulse anywhere else in her body. She was aware she was dying and had no way to communicate. She was taken off life support the next day after family could say goodbye.


11 posted on 02/21/2015 5:37:00 AM PST by ican'tbelieveit
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To: elcid1970
Again, three hits failed to instantly kill the robber. Scary.

Police are trained to keep firing until he goes down. Seems like a wise practice.

19 posted on 02/21/2015 2:39:13 PM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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