Rob Bell And The Progressive Emergent Church Embrace Sodomite Marriage

Leo McNeil ^ | February 20, 2015 | Leo McNeil

[Elsie]

I’m not going to waste my time responding to every cut and paste job you spam this forum with.

Of course you won't!

Your religion can't stand up to inspection.

There are MANY reading this thread, wondering WHY you can't stand behind your chosen religion's writings.

[StormPrepper]

"I’m not going to waste my time responding to every cut and paste job you spam this forum with.

Of course you won't!

Your religion can't stand up to inspection."

It has for almost 200 years now.

Yours is still fighting over whether to baptize babies or not.

You should be careful with that whole "can't stand up to inspection" routine. You wouldn't want me to do an in depth review of the Wesleyan movement now would you?

I mean I have no desire to, that's your church and if you want to associate there that's your business. But just remember, the Wesleyan's founder started out as a priest of Church of England. Which got it's start when the king of England wasn't granted a divorce by the Catholic church. So, he decided to make his own church.

And if the Pope would have succeeded in assassinating Elizabeth I, your church wouldn't even exist.

Standing up to inspection you say?

[Elsie]

It has for almost 200 years now.

Then 20 posts or so should be EASY for an avid Mormon like yourself.

Are you damned by Brigham's words or not?

[Elsie]

But just remember, the Wesleyan's founder started out as a priest of Church of England.

But just remember, the MORMON's founder; Joseph Smith; tried to join a Methodist church.

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In 1879, 59 years after the First Vision, Joseph and Hiel Lewis claimed that Joseph Smith joined the Methodist Church while translating the Book of Mormon

Joseph and Hiel Lewis were cousins of Emma Hale Smith; they would have been aged 21 and 11 respectively in 1828:

...while he, Smith, was in Harmony, Pa., translating his book....that he joined the M[ethodist] [Episocpal] church. He presented himself in a very serious and humble manner, and the minister, not suspecting evil, put his name on the class book, the absence of some of the official members, among whom was the undersigned, Joseph Lewis, who, when he learned what was done, took with him Joshua McKune, and had a talk with Smith. They told him plainly that such a character as he was a disgrace to the church, that he could not be a member of the church unless he broke off his sins by repentance, made public confession, renounced his fraudulent and hypocritical practices, and gave some evidence that he intended to reform and conduct himself somewhat nearer like a christian than he had done. They gave him his choice, to go before the class, and publicly ask to have his name stricken from the class book, or stand a disciplinary investigation. He chose the former, and immediately withdrew his name. So his name as a member of the class was on the book only three days.--It was the general opinion that his only object in joining the church was to bolster up his reputation and gain the sympathy and help of christians; that is, putting on the cloak of religion to serve the devil in.

[StormPrepper]

[Elsie]Joseph and Hiel Lewis claimed that Joseph Smith

Because everyone knows that claims made by someone who knew someone are always true.

[StormPrepper]

Then 20 posts or so should be EASY for an avid Mormon like yourself.

Are you damned by Brigham's words or not?

avid? No LC, "active" is the correct terminology. Thanks for trying though.

Are you damned by Brigham's words or not?

Nope. Notta. Nicht. I've already posted as to why not.

[Elsie]

Let's go back further; to where I DID say what you've typed here.

I case you've forgotten...