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ISIS doesn’t need killing. They need jobs!
Questions and Observations ^ | February 17, 2015 | Bruce McQuain

Posted on 02/17/2015 7:22:45 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

To describe our State Department (and it’s spokes person) as boneheaded is an insult to boneheaded people. Here’s State Department Spokesperson Marie Harf and, of all people, MSNBC’s Chris Matthews:

MATTHEWS: How do we stop this? I don’t see it. I see the Shia militias coming out of Baghdad who are all Shia. The Sunnis hate them. The Sunnis are loyal to ISIS rather than going in with the Shia. You’ve got the Kurds, the Jordanian air force and now the Egyptian air force. But i don’t see any — If i were ISIS, I wouldn’t be afraid right now. I can figure there is no existential threat to these people. They can keep finding places where they can hold executions and putting the camera work together, getting their props ready and killing people for show. And nothing we do right now seems to be directed at stopping this.

HARF: Well, I think there’s a few stages here. Right now what we’re doing is trying to take their leaders and their fighters off the battlefield in Iraq and Syria. That’s really where they flourish.

MATTHEWS: Are we killing enough of them?

HARF: We’re killing a lot of them and we’re going to keep killing more of them. So are the Egyptians, so are the Jordanians. They’re in this fight with us. But we cannot win this war by killing them. We cannot kill our way out of this war. We need in the medium to longer term to go after the root causes that leads people to join these groups, whether it’s lack of opportunity for jobs, whether —

MATTHEWS: We’re not going to be able to stop that in our lifetime or fifty lifetimes. There’s always going to be poor people. There’s always going to be poor muslims, and as long as there are poor Muslims, the trumpet’s blowing and they’ll join. We can’t stop that, can we?

HARF: We can work with countries around the world to help improve their governance. We can help them build their economies so they can have job opportunities for these people…

Good grief, these people don’t want better “governance” and they’ve got the job they want … building the Caliphate. For heaven sake when are these ass-clowns going to wake up?

I’m again going to recommend an article that does the best analysis and explanation of ISIS that you’re going to find. It is very clear that those who rally to the ISIS banner think they’re building a righteous future with the Caliphate and that what they’re doing is preordained by their religion.

But the fools who run this country and our foreign policy – that would be the White House and State Department – are terrified of facing the threat and calling it what it is. It’s absurd and cowardly. It makes them come up with the sorts of pitiful nonsense that Harf is told to go out and spread.

This is a religious movement which is based, at its very core, on Islam. It is as religious a movement as you can get. In fact, as explained in the Atlantic article I’ve pointed you too, it is based in a literal interpretation of Islam’s holy book and its history. Let me hit you with that one particular quote again:

The reality is that the Islamic State is Islamic. Very Islamic. Yes, it has attracted psychopaths and adventure seekers, drawn largely from the disaffected populations of the Middle East and Europe. But the religion preached by its most ardent followers derives from coherent and even learned interpretations of Islam.

Virtually every major decision and law promulgated by the Islamic State adheres to what it calls, in its press and pronouncements, and on its billboards, license plates, stationery, and coins, “the Prophetic methodology,” which means following the prophecy and example of Muhammad, in punctilious detail. Muslims can reject the Islamic State; nearly all do. But pretending that it isn’t actually a religious, millenarian group, with theology that must be understood to be combatted, has already led the United States to underestimate it and back foolish schemes to counter it. We’ll need to get acquainted with the Islamic State’s intellectual genealogy if we are to react in a way that will not strengthen it, but instead help it self-immolate in its own excessive zeal.

Note what the author points out – that “pretending it isn’t actually religious … has already led the United States to underestimate it and back foolish schemes to counter it.”

See above! Harf is just a symptom of the idiocy and cowardice that infests our highest levels of government. When you refuse to actually identify the enemy and his motivation, you cannot hope to devise and develop a plan to counter his threat. History is littered with the failure such nonsense brings. Chamberlin thought Hitler could be reasoned with and would keep his word. He was clueless. And, as such, he developed a “strategy” that was an abject failure and, in fact, played right into Hitler’s hands.

Obama and Kerry are no different. They refuse to face the reality of the threat. That’s why we have no strategy, or at least no strategy (patience? really?) that will counter the threat. What they are doing is cowardly and reprehensible, not to mention being derelict in their sworn duties. This is unacceptable, but then neither Obama nor Kerry have ever been mistaken as leaders.

And when you elect or appoint people with no leadership experience and no real world experience, you get this. Something 50% of the idiots who live in this country approve of (sorry, I’m a little grumpy today).


TOPICS: Government; Military/Veterans; Politics; Religion
KEYWORDS: braking; harf; isil; isis; jihad; obama
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1 posted on 02/17/2015 7:22:45 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Typical LIB idiots. Typical moozlum losers. Typical. Both do not belong in any civilization.


2 posted on 02/17/2015 7:26:13 PM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Surprised ‘they’ didn’t suggest Midnight Basketball.

That was supposed to be the cure all for ‘restless yute’....


3 posted on 02/17/2015 7:26:15 PM PST by xrmusn ((6/98)A pessimist damns the wind, an optimist thinks it will change and a realist adjusts the sails.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Killing is their job. They just need to die.
4 posted on 02/17/2015 7:27:02 PM PST by windsorknot
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

To only slightly change General Sheridan’s quote: The only good terrorist is a dead terrorist.


5 posted on 02/17/2015 7:30:03 PM PST by yarddog (Romans 8:38-39, For I am persuaded.)
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To: xrmusn

IIRC, they have a job and the savages are paid regularly by their bosses. They have a regular chain of command and are paid accordingly.


6 posted on 02/17/2015 7:30:26 PM PST by Sasparilla (If you want peace, prepare for war.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Colonel Peters said it best, Osama Bin Laden was extremely wealthy yet his issue wasn't jobs or poverty, it was to kill infidels and promote the Muslim faith
7 posted on 02/17/2015 7:30:32 PM PST by martinidon
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think even Matthews was taken aback by how stupid this woman was. All these liberals who keep telling us Scott Walker is stupid because he didn’t finish his studies at Marquette need to shut up after Marie Harf, who has a Masters in international affairs from the University of Virginia, put on that show of horrendous ignorance.


8 posted on 02/17/2015 7:31:57 PM PST by dowcaet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They have jobs—jobs killing other humans.


9 posted on 02/17/2015 7:33:33 PM PST by Fungi (Evolution is piece by piece over billions of years. At what point did a precursor become a human?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

From what I can tell the motions the jaw makes while blathering liberal platitudes about fixing the root causes of extremism and having multi-cultural respect for the Religion of Peace™ won’t in any way interfere with the beheading process.


10 posted on 02/17/2015 7:33:42 PM PST by Junk Silver
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

How many butchers does the world need? /s


11 posted on 02/17/2015 7:34:32 PM PST by CivilWarBrewing
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

0bama won’t be able to help them on jobs, unless they give up looking like the 93 Million Americans.


12 posted on 02/17/2015 7:34:58 PM PST by The Sons of Liberty (Some say I hate 0bama; "HATE" is a strong word, but in this case NOT STRONG ENOUGH!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

they already have a job - killing innocents.


13 posted on 02/17/2015 7:36:35 PM PST by SkyDancer (I Was Told Nobody Is Perfect But Yet, Here I Am ...)
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To: martinidon

Osama as a youth with his family in Sweden.

14 posted on 02/17/2015 7:39:03 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

She is an SNL skit, if there ever was one.

Laraine Newman would have been great for the part!


15 posted on 02/17/2015 7:42:56 PM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
They need slow, painful killing. There must be atonement for the grisly beheadings and burnings.

Fast death by bullet or bomb is too merciful, they must feel something of what their victims felt.

Yeah, I know, old Ghengis and I would probably be buds.

16 posted on 02/17/2015 7:47:46 PM PST by doorgunner69
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

ISIS members have the jobs they want: raping, killing, pillaging, and profiting from what they have stolen.


17 posted on 02/17/2015 7:48:46 PM PST by luvbach1 (We are finished. It will just take a while before everyone realizes it.)
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To: hal ogen

They ( the liberals ) are not radical Islam Muslim losers, they are radical Islamic Muslim sympathizers.
They are aiding and empowering the radical Islamic Muslim terrorists.
Their goal, same as the Islamic terrorist is to eradicate Christianity, Jews, and western civilization off the face of earth.
Obola’s administration’s track record in the Arab spring in countries like Libya, Egypt, a few years ago lead to this by allowing those weapons to get into the hands of Isis.


18 posted on 02/17/2015 7:48:47 PM PST by American Constitutionalist (The Keystone Pipeline Project : build it already Congress !)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
But we cannot win this war by killing them.

It worked on the Japanese and Germans in WWII.

19 posted on 02/17/2015 7:48:53 PM PST by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So I guess this means we can release all our convicted killers in our prisons from potential death sentences or their serving life sentences if we provide gainful employment for them ????????


20 posted on 02/17/2015 7:49:03 PM PST by late bloomer ( Neglegere homo pone aulaeum. semi-retired warlord)
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