Posted on 02/15/2015 9:08:46 AM PST by Oldpuppymax
Using Agitprop and elements of the Delphi propaganda method (3), lethal Home Owners Associations (HOAs) are moving north out of huge Miami-Fort Lauderdale territories up along Florida’s I-95 corridor to take over more and more personal property rights of unsuspecting homeowners in gated, HOA communities. And the effects are not pretty! “Resetting the default position. . .exploits the structure of the choice to encourage a more desirable option,” says Cass R. Sunstein, author of the book NUDGE. (1) Employed by the Obama Administration as a regulatory czar, it was Sunstein’s job to have the American people do what the government wanted them to do, all the while believing it was actually their own idea!
A heuristic is a term applied to getting a student or other type of governmental human unit to do what government wants them to do by programing certain choices involving quick decisions and empirical thought processes rather than theory based decision. Most conservatives should be quite aware of the United Nations inspired Agenda 21, Seven/50 attempts to take over private property of unsuspecting Americans. ”Choice Architecture,” a devastating term developed by Sunstein and co-author Richard Thaler, is defined this way: “…If you want a person to reach a desirable outcome and you can’t change the heuristic she’s following, then you have to meddle with the choice architecture, setting up one that when matched with the given heuristic delivers the desirable (for govt) outcome,” writes the former Obama czar. (2) Nudging HOA residents along the path of cessation of private property rights plays into big government agendas!
Remnants of Agenda 21 are destroying the peace of neighborhoods and towns in South Florida. All along the coast, citizens and local governments are being traumatized by the All Aboard Florida project that seeks to run at least 32 trains...
(Excerpt) Read more at coachisright.com ...
YES....”little Eddie coming out to play” is HIL ARIOUS!!!
That’s reasonable.....HOAs can be awful, or a God send - because people are people and people are flawed. But the notion of an HOA is neither inherently good or bad with respects to rights. It’s case by case.
It’s not a Constitutional issue either way. Your right is your choice of neighborhood, NOT to force on the neighborhood what YOU want - be it an HOA or nothing.
And HOA has nothing to do government - it’s a mechanism of self government of a very narrow swath of life. I can understand not wanting to live under an HOA, and I can understand wanting to also. It’s called liberty, but there’s zip zero nada analogy that you are trying to make.
No, you have the right to try, but whether or not that works out for you is another matter altogether.
It's good that you Love Big Brother. Have you always been at war with EastAsia? How's the ersatz coffee at Chestnut Tree Café?
A condominium is a separate property with a real title. A co-op is an ownership share in a corporation that owns an apartment building, coupled with a long-term lease between the occupant of a unit and the corporation that owns the building.
Different states have different laws, and for some reason I think New York State law is more favorable than others for co-op arrangements ... which is why there are so many of them in New York City.
The point is where you have to exercise that right. And in the case of an HOA, those are to choose BEFORE you buy into an area.
And after you buy, if you want to change it, you have the right to try and convince a majority to do so. But the point is, an HOA is neither pro no anti property rights necessarily. Good ones operate to protect property rights - bad ones infringe.
Check your organizing documents (master deed and bylaws) to see how many people need to be on your board, and get enough of them to get control of the board.
State and local governments have given HOAs have far too much power.
It has been obvious for a long time, at least to anyone paying attention, that state and local governments have granted FAR too much power to Homeowner Associatons. That being the case, anyone at this point in time who purchases property in a development with an HOA deserves everything they get.
I think you do have to sign on the dotted line whether that is in a one sentence blurb in your deed or a separate agreement. I have never heard of an HOA just being able to annex people’s property.
You understand nothing about the HOA relative to liberal, conservative, property rights, etc. You analogy is an epic failure.
There is no right infringement. Your right exists BEFORE YOU BUY. What is so hard for you to grasp? You are over thinking, and your argument is a non sequitur.
Good luck to you, make sure you know your rights.
Well, I am in the heart of Cornbread Mafia territory. ;-)
The band I used to play in was also described as the “house band of the Cornbread Mafia” by one of its longtime members. :-D
...I am aghast at the flawed logic of some so called free market conservative folks.....it’s one thing to find it on left wing sites, but it’s more frightening to find it here....and it’s here in spades.
In some states I'd say the notion of an HOA is inherently bad. This would include any state where the laws governing HOAs are so flawed that they expose homeowners in these organizations to legal risks that they may have never anticipated when they bought their homes.
They are not a city, county, state or Federal government. In every city, county, state, you can live IN or NOT IN one. Period.
Many have very little power. You are making a case based on the extremes. That’s never a smart thing to do.
But that’s a flaw in the STATE, not in the concept of HOA’s in general.
That was a seriously yuppie-like post. I think you should consider changing your screen name.
It's usually the governing documents of an HOA that grant it too much power, and for the vast majority of issues that come up in an HOA the governing documents will supersede state and local laws. Aside from anything that would be illegal under state/local law, a set of HOA documents would be subject to provisions of contract law, which means you accepted the terms of these documents the moment you signed the title to your property.
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