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Obama's 'Free' Community College - Not a very sound idea
Michigan Capitol Confidential ^ | 2/4/2015 | Dr. David Herbert

Posted on 02/06/2015 7:02:04 AM PST by MichCapCon

President Obama recently announced his goal to provide two years of “free” community college for American workers. This has been met with cheers from community college leaders, high school administrators, and plenty of Americans.

Such cheers, however, are not such a clear sign that President Obama would have us believe in the wisdom of providing free community college education. First, let’s not pretend that this is going to result in saving the country money on education — it merely changes who foots the bill. Instead of people attending community colleges paying for their own education, the American taxpayer will be tasked with doing this. Second, there is no reason to suspect that this policy will actually help anyone.

Using data from the Michigan Community College NETwork, we can clearly see that while tuition rates at community colleges have remained relatively steady, community college enrollment in Michigan has actually declined over the last three years. This suggests that fewer people are finding community college to be a worthwhile endeavor.

According to data from the Michigan Community College Association, the current community college completion/graduation/transfer rate is an abysmal 52 percent (up from 44 percent in 2008). This means almost half of all students who enroll in a community college program fail to complete, graduate or transfer to a four-year institution. Put another way, almost half of all people who enroll in community college pay tuition but fail to obtain any type of degree, effectively throwing their money away. President Obama’s proposed plan will do nothing to address this and instead will likely set more people up for failure.

The problem with community college, and college in general for that matter, is not the cost, as every year millions of people around the country choose to enroll in some type of post-secondary education program. The problem is that these institutions are failing to provide students with an adequate education in a dynamic and increasingly global economy. While some may point to a recent study by the Federal Reserve Bank of New York as evidence that college is still worthwhile, these statistics are based on averages which may hide underlying characteristics of great importance.

For example, after John Elway graduated from Stanford University in 1983 with a degree in economics, the average salary of students graduating from Stanford with an economics degree was several hundred thousand dollars per year, which was significantly higher than the average salary of economics majors from other institutions. Obviously, this statistical quirk was not because the Stanford economics program was somehow special; it was because they had John Elway, who was earning millions of dollars in the NFL. By the same token, college may be worth it on average, but the millions of unemployed and underemployed college graduates in society today certainly don’t feel that way and rightfully so. Instead of trying to lower the cost, we should instead find ways to increase the benefit of furthering one’s education beyond the high school level.

One way to do this would be to instead provide students who prefer it with a voucher or tax credit for job training rather than encouraging them to enroll in a system that fails to meet their needs. Under this system, the federal government would not be telling students to enroll in a broken system, but would instead free them to attend a program that they actually want to attend and where they are more likely to succeed.


TOPICS: Education; Government
KEYWORDS: communitycollege; obama

1 posted on 02/06/2015 7:02:04 AM PST by MichCapCon
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To: MichCapCon

What this policy will do is to make a CC certificate as worthless as a high school diploma is these days. Oh, and all at the expense of us taxpayers.


2 posted on 02/06/2015 7:08:25 AM PST by tgusa (gun control: deep breath, sight alignment, squeeze the trigger .......)
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To: tgusa

I would offer a bolder strategy....let kids test out at the end of the tenth grade. If they pass...they get a high school certificate, and two years of local community college (within forty miles of their home). You could lay off a quarter of all high school teachers, thus passing the savings onto students who have a c-average upon high school graduation and willing to complete two years of community college.


3 posted on 02/06/2015 7:14:31 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: tgusa

I would offer a bolder strategy....let kids test out at the end of the tenth grade. If they pass...they get a high school certificate, and two years of local community college (within forty miles of their home). You could lay off a quarter of all high school teachers, thus passing the savings onto students who have a c-average upon high school graduation and willing to complete two years of community college.


4 posted on 02/06/2015 7:14:32 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: MichCapCon

Oh, but it’s very “sound”.

It “sounds” compassionate, caring, and generous
to his sheeperal who hang their righteousness on
supporting such a “kind and generous man”.


5 posted on 02/06/2015 7:17:37 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: MichCapCon

When I went to CC, not only was it “free” for some people, it was positive cash flow.


6 posted on 02/06/2015 7:23:23 AM PST by logitech (It is time.)
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To: tgusa

I heard one critic refer to Obama’s “free community college” initiative as “creating grades 13 & 14” which it would certainly do.


7 posted on 02/06/2015 7:29:25 AM PST by Tallguy
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To: MichCapCon

Not everyone has to have a college degree. There are many high paying jobs in the trades.


8 posted on 02/06/2015 7:39:44 AM PST by duckman (I have a pen a phone and a bucket list. BHO)
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To: MichCapCon

My very smart niece got a technical certificate after high school....she could have gone to any college...shes been working as a welder now for 2+ years....

Her cousin, my other niece who is very smart too, chose the college route...shes still in college getting her “history” degree...working part-time jobs...

We shall see what happens in 5 years...


9 posted on 02/06/2015 7:53:41 AM PST by goodnesswins (I think we've reached PEAK TYRANNY now.....)
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To: MichCapCon
Obama is sucking the wind from the 2016 campaign. Every time he opens he mouth, this is something a Democratic candidate cannot use because it will be stale in two years.

Keep it up Mr. President, just like you did in 2014!

10 posted on 02/06/2015 7:57:21 AM PST by CptnObvious
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This is just grade 13 and 14 subterfuge in order to keep people working longer and delay job seeking.


11 posted on 02/06/2015 8:27:38 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: MichCapCon

The communist always gos from plan to plan to keep ruining America. be better if he rots at the golf course or at Martha’s Vineyard. But it is really the whole establishment in D.C> that is the problem.


12 posted on 02/06/2015 8:30:07 AM PST by Mozilla
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To: MichCapCon

Very Good explanation of Obama’s next con job. Nachum should link to it on his list.


13 posted on 02/06/2015 8:51:25 AM PST by Mozilla
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To: MichCapCon

Soviet planning in action. There are no jobs but let’s raise expectations that obtaining a degree will make jobs materialize out of thin air.


14 posted on 02/06/2015 2:31:45 PM PST by ransomnote
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