As someone who disputed who "served" with him, it is relevant. He was willing to embellish truth. Lies by omission are still lies.
Posted on 01/21/2015 9:36:01 PM PST by grundle
As someone who disputed who "served" with him, it is relevant. He was willing to embellish truth. Lies by omission are still lies.
So are you saying Stanley Ann lived in that wee bungalow with her parents for the entire length of her pregnancy? If not, where was Stanley Ann during those nine months?
Also, not trying to be difficult, but I have never seen any evidence anywhere that Stanley Ann brought her baby home from the hospital to 6085 Kalanianaole Highway. Is this merely Obama-friendly guesswork, or is there a ‘fact’ somewhere that supports it?
From what I have read, David Maraniss’ research into Stanley Ann’s Honolulu residences, etc., are the best of any undertaken to date. I note this from an AmericanThinker article:
‘Maraniss does concede in his 2012 Obama biography that “[Ann] and Obama and the infant never lived [at 6085 Kalanianaole].” But Maraniss vaguely implied that Ann, Obama Sr., and baby Barack may have lived at “1482 Alencastre Street” – even though the Honolulu Polk directories listed Obama Sr. residing at 11th Ave.’
Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2014/03/in_name_only.html#ixzz3PYqRD2dl
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Here’s a little more detail on Maraniss’ research, this time from Jack Cashill:
‘According to the birth certificate and the newspaper announcements, the young family lived at 6085 Kalanianole Highway where Dunham’s parents lived. Obama Sr. clarified to the INS that mother and baby lived there without him.
Maraniss definitively states that “[Dunham] and Obama and the infant never lived [at 6085 Kalanianole].” There was no room. The senior Dunhams shared the house with the Pratt family. The Pratt daughter “has no memory of the Dunhams’ daughter bringing an infant home.”’
Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2012/06/biographer-admits-there-was-no-obama-family/#zxO1uZyYGDYvYlEi.99
What makes you think he was born in Kenya? The available facts which can be established makes this very unlikely. He has a better chance of having been born in Canada than Kenya.
The issue is what is the truth. It is important to pursue truth, not just for the historical record, but because it is an innate human characteristic to do so.
At least we elected a guy who faked his way through college and ice with fake birth certificate, social security numbers, and lying about being a foreign student.
At worst he has perpetrated one of the biggest frauds in history and is ineligible to be in office. The pity is that people n power like the republican leadership and the supreme court have shirked their duties in favor of the imposter.
Why people don’t clamor for information and continue the pressure is inexplicable to me. And complicit.
Jack Cashill concurs with you on the Canada birth likelihood. He said it in this presentation, though at the time I listened I didn’t note down the exact time/minute-mark. I believe it was in the question and answer part:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkyD1_VChI0
What facts show this? I have been studying this topic since 2008, and I know of no facts that show he was born in Hawaii. It is equally probable that he was born in Washington state or Canada based on what i've seen.
The nuts you mention, whom we now call "birthers", were those who believe he actually was born in Kenya, and that that magically means his presidency can be deleted from history, 67 senators not being necessary, just gotta find the right judge, LOL!
Well presumably if he turned out to be younger than 35 years of age, the courts would have acted. I presume that one constitutional requirement is as important as another.
Exactly what I said.
It is. Eligibility is a meaningless term nowadays. The standards are so loose that anyone can meet them, and in any case, the courts have signaled that no one has the authority to enforce them anyway.
The grandmother doesn't speak English and so must have everything interpreted to her. The guy asks her if she was present at his birth in Kenya, but this gets mistranslated as asking her if he was a child of the village, (or some such) and at first she says "Yes", then after the question is asked again in a more correct way, she says "No."
The original "Yes" answer is pushed far and wide by those intent on claiming he was born in Kenya, and the subsequent "No" answer is deliberately ignored.
No one should put any stock in that claim. Go listen to the original audio yourself. You will find they are reaching for straws and "leading the witness" in this exchange.
He is not "natural born" anything, he is also not a traitor. He owes no natural allegiance to this country at all.
His citizenship is the creation of congress, not "natural law" on which the nation was founded.
Oh yeah, go with the more popular, more straightforward, and more likely rendering.
;)
Congratulations, you have lived through a Constitutional Revolution. Apparently now, whatever a majority wants, trumps the Constitution .... immediately.
RE: Post #22... WTF?
That’s some rant. Did we say or do something wrong? I’m confused about the point. Who were you responding too.... mostly?
Absolutely not. I did.
To whom were you responding? I'm confused about the point.
Now that is where my fault lies, not anyone else's. What I am trying to say in my inchoate rage is that we are playing a chump's game continuing this theme about Obama's "eligibility." Of course Obama is the worst "man" to have ever held the office and IOO, was ineligible to even run for it! We (and Sheriff Joe) know this, the "others" who elected him twice do not and never will. For a majority of our fellow citizens, The Mombasa MF could do no wrong. That's why he will be our POTUS through 2016.
50 years from now, some revisionist conservative historian from the University of Perth, Australia, may show that Obama was indeed ineligible for office. In the meantime, my efforts should be directed at making sure the lazy and extremely wealthy Republican Recumbent and his colleagues who "represent" me and you in Congress need a fire under their asses every day.
IMNVHO, that is where my energy should be directed. Please Jesus! No more Obamagossip from Kenny Bunk!
A listing of 26 items which point to birth in Hawaii. [The Scribd app is needed to view]
https://www.scribd.com/doc/96756764/Barack-Obama-Was-Born-in-Hawaii
In my humble opinion, the most compelling items are the August 31, 1961 Student Visa extension interview that Barack Obama Senior had with Immgration and Naturalization Service officer William Woods. Mr. Woods’ notes show Obama Senior mentioning his American citizen wife and child born in Honolulu on 8/4/1961 and their address in Honolulu.
Also the 1968 St. Francis of Assisi School in Jakarta, Indonesia application form filled out by step-father Lolo Soetoro lists Honolulu, Hawaii as “Barry Soetoro’s” birthplace.
Who ya gonna believe? Your lying eyes or Hussein?
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