Posted on 01/10/2015 12:43:21 PM PST by Rusty0604
There are approximately 3 million preppers in the United States today, and often they appear to be singled out for punishment by bureaucratic control freaks that are horrified at the thought that there are families out there that actually want to try to become less dependent on the system.
The EPA has recently banned the production and sale of 80 percent of America’s current wood-burning stoves, ...
Older stoves that don’t cannot be traded in for updated types, but instead must be rendered inoperable, destroyed, or recycled as scrap metal.
There are other preppers that try to use very “clean” methods to power their homes, but that is still not good enough for some government control freaks.
For example, one prepper down in south Florida that had gone “off the grid” was recently ordered by a court to connect back to the grid or face eviction from his home.
Robin Speronis has lived off the grid, independent of the city’s water and electric system. A Florida court ruled this off-the-grid living illegal ... Further, officials in the city of Cape Coral have justified this by deeming Robin’s home “unsanitary,” citing the International Property Maintenance Code. First of all, since when did we begin to locally recognize “international codes?” Where in the US Constitution does it provide for international jurisdiction over local codes?
In fact, in some states we can’t even sit on our own land and collect the rain as it falls from the sky for our own personal use.
If you do this in the state of Oregon, for example, you could go to prison…
Gary Harrington, the Oregon man convicted of collecting rainwater and snow runoff on his rural property surrendered Wednesday morning to begin serving his 30-day, jail sentence in Medford, Ore.
(Excerpt) Read more at theeconomiccollapseblog.com ...
Attention Preppers: Here is the One Prepper Asset That Trumps All Others
http://dailyreckoning.com/attention-preppers-one-prepper-asset-trumps-others/
What about the International Property Maintenance Code?/s
Lots of windup for a very little pitch.
On top of everything, though, one asset trumps all of them… electricity.With it, you have the trifecta: heat, light, and, most importantly, communication with people outside your vicinity.
OK, so electricity is great.
I made my wood stove with my trusty welder, and cut my wood with my trusty Dolmars and Husky.
I read Sunset magazine this morning, and they did a story about cocktails made from snow, and how that might be against the law, since collecting rainwater in Colorado was. I think in the end, they ended up using slushy ice. What maroons. They even made the remark that you can smoke dope, though.
The article seems designed to intentionally blur the line between prepping to live off the grid, should the grid disappear some day, versus living off the grid, when the grid is readily available. Big difference. I’ll go through them one-by-one.
1) Wood-burning stoves: This is the one closest to be worth getting paranoid over. They are still out there and reasonably priced. Yep, just like cars, they are regulated (and therefore more expensive than needed)...but just like cars, you can do a lot to “deregulate” them, if you really want. Should the SHTF, there won’t be anyone around to enforce the regulations, so you do what makes sense in those circumstances. But the key is that they are still available, but you have to pay what is essentially a tax.
Here’s the first item to appear at Google...
http://www.globalindustrial.com/p/hvac/Fireplaces-Pits/stoves/pleasant-hearth-2200-sq-ft-wood-burning-stove-with-blower-medium-lws-130291?infoParam.campaignId=T9F&gclid=CI7exai5isMCFRWRfgodLLwArg
2) Not hooking up to city water and sewage. If you don’t want to connect where required, then don’t live where those services exist and are required. Roughly 90% of the country’s land mass does not have those connections...so you can live there. Or a second option (which is what I do). Connect up, but also have all of the off-grid capability ready. It is not illegal to store 4 years worth of plastic bags, for example, for use when sewer systems go away. It is also not illegal to have gutters surrounding your house, with the ability to connect up rainwater collection. It only becomes illegal (sometimes) when you actually start collecting that water...but if the city supply goes away, I very much doubt the city will care whether you start using that system...if there is any city government even left.
Vaccination: Easy one, at least regarding public schools. If you don’t want to vaccinate your kids, then don’t send them to public schools. If you want to send your kids to (today’s) public schools, you should have your head examined anyway. Private schools are a bit trickier, but I don’t believe vaccinations are enforced for kids that are home schooled, although I could be wrong here.
So if you want to live off the grid, fine, but if you choose to do so in a place where that is not permitted, you may have a tough time. If you choose a place where there are no services to begin with, then, almost certainly, no one will care. Prepping is the ABILITY to live off the grid, it does not mean you MUST live off the grid full-time, while the grid is there.
When is someone going to start Chootin’ these liberal POS
And keep those stills running too.
Isn’t that amazing that it was once even outlawed?
When I built my house 34 years ago I put a fire stove in it that ran off real wood not the pellets. I have changed the bricks in it one time. My investment for the stove back then was $4,800.00.
I have a gas propane furnace but heat a 3000 sq ft house off of this one stove. I just run the fan in the central heat unit.
My wife cannot stand the cold and has to have the winter chill GONE. Normal temp in house usually is 74’F We probably go thru at least 1/2 a cord or better of wood which I cut on my place during a cold winter for Gulf Coast of Texas. The stove is very efficient.
The point is, I can see something this efficient the Government throwing away.
The first rule of Prepper Club is you do not talk about Prepper Club.
LOL, don’t get me wrong, there is A LOT that can be debated about government regulations...I was just pointing out that the effects on preppers is incidental, not intentional. It’s not like they’re coming for us.
Nice setup, by the way.
10-4 they are coming after us.
When I need to change my bricks out again I wonder if they will be available or has the EPA deemed it necessary to “discontinue” this polluter.
Now all the money I save over the years by sweating cutting wood, splitting and such was for naught.
Frickin’ government
My mom used to make ice cream from snow, guess nowadays she could have done time.
Northern Tool has a nice kit to make a barrel stove. The two barrel one we had using 30 gallon barrels was over 100K Btu. Not too Ritzy but quite efficient.
The biggest problem it had was the smoke condensing and a stinky resin running down the vent pipe.
Try to hang in there. We’ve (only) got 740 days til Obama’s officially out of office.
Don’t wanna be a party pooper, but the GOP will change NOTHING and the DNC will only make things as bad as they can be. : (
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