Posted on 12/16/2014 8:35:13 AM PST by LeoMcNeil
Perhaps. It also seems like Dem pandering to them might be driving more Whites and even some Blacks to vote Republican.
Iirc Romney actually got something like 18% of the young Black male vote. This was offset by Black females voting for Obama at a hair under 100%.
Obamas not going to be on the ballot in 2016, so Black turnout should return to pre-2008 levels. After this year we may see a scramble by the Dems to recapture some White votes, which could cause issues with other portions of their base.
So lots of variables at work.
He’s a church going, life supporting, defense minded, fiscally informed, supporter of big government, amnesty, and open borders.
He will be easy to sell to most social conservatives.
We better meet somewhere and do just that. If we have a replay of 2012 we will get Bush as nominee for sure.
I do not like third party conservative parties that drive away votes from the GOP ad elect Democrats .But,in this case a threat of such would be very good politics. Whether we actually do is another think but we should be able to stop this nomination if enough people make the pledge to support a third party.
Which is exactly why the media is pushing him. He can't win if nominated, because there is literally nothing like the "Bush" name that will invigorate and motivate the Democrat base. Face it, the Repub's won the mid-terms because they turned out and Dems didn't. The left HATES the Bushes - all of them. The media HATES the Bushes - all of them. They will beat that drum, and beat that drum, and it will motivate and get out the vote.
The other part of the equation will be the media's blind promotion of Hillary. This whole Elizabeth Warren nonsense is just that. She's only there now as a stalking horse, to draw the attention and fire of the right and the "moderate". The ideal is to make Hillary a moderate centrist by comparison - not that Warren has any realistic chance of obtaining the nomination or winning. To pull this off, the Clinton operatives are working to create "bookends" to the left and right of Hillary, so she's the just-right Goldilocks candidate.
I’m a convert. I will no longer vote for moderate republicans. If the candidate is not conservative (truly) I will now vote for the democrat.
I resisted in the past and even admonished some for taking this attitude. I am now on board. And I sent Senator Coats a letter stating the same. His office has called me twice to better understand my concerns. I splained it to them.
We either need to turn things around soon or run it aground ASAP. Half the “conservatives” we have elected have turned on us, even the ones we were excited about. I am changing my party affiliation too. Independent doesn’t sound so bad.
So was Reagan.
If another “moderate” (or more) enters, then there is a chance that this would weaken them...so long as their is a consensus on the right...a single candidate, or between two candidates that could end up being on the same ticket (i.e. not rip each other to shreds in the primaries).
“It would be nice if the primary got down to one conservative vs. one “moderate” as early as possible, while there’s still enough delegates remaining for the conservative to triumph.”
Agree.
Cruz could also be the other side of the ticket.
It’s like a horror movie.
“Perhaps. It also seems like Dem pandering to them might be driving more Whites and even some Blacks to vote Republican.”
I wonder how many times THAT particular fantasy has to be shot down before ‘republicans’ wise up!
Jeb, Mitty, and NJFatboy.
All will have plenty of dough to campaign, but you’re right may offset each other.
He can announce it until he's blue in the face, but he'll be lying through his teeth.
Floor fight: Grass-roots activists battle attempt to rig RNC delegate rules
More lesser evil, eh? So how's that working out so far?
Jeb Bush was meeting with John McCain to get tips on how to run a winning Presidential campaign.
If jeb Bush is the nominee, I’ll be voting for his opponent.
Nevertheless, that appears to be Jeb Bushs goal. Hes announcing his candidacy early in order to raise money and convince Mitt Romney and Chris Christie not to run. If he can convince them not to run, all he needs is 39% support and a boatload of money to win the nomination.
Other sources have Romney winning 52% of the primary vote. It's not always easy to specify just who is a Republican and who is part of the Republican base. You may be assuming that the Republican base is comprised of people who didn't vote for Romney in the primaries and that everybody who voted against Romney was for "anybody but Romney." One can be skeptical about both of those assumptions.
Around four million conservative Republicans didnt show up on election day in 2012, costing Mitt Romney the election.
So said the early reports, but I think that number was revised downward. What hurt Romney more in the states where the election was decided was the rich guy factor and his attitude toward the auto bailout, more than general ideological hostility towards him.
Bush will have trouble if he runs because people don't respond well to the Bush name nowadays, because he's not a very inspiring candidate and has little charisma, because he's yesterday's news, and because there isn't enough daylight between him and Hillary for voters to really care.
But the way to deny him the nomination isn't to back a lot of little candidates each claiming to be the most conservative. It's to find somebody who has a broad appeal that goes beyond the narrowest possible definition of the party base. The problem with that is that any such candidate would be accused of not being conservative enough. It's a vicious circle.
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