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To: drbuzzard
I know this will come as a surprise, but declaring war when there is no country to declare it on is a bit tricky.

True.

Also, you appear to have selective reading comprehension. I mentioned that the protections extend to legal residents (tourists are legally here right? )

They're not [legally] residents, are they?

And once more somehow we get from me thinking government limitations stop at the border (but still apply to citizens elsewhere) to you expecting concentration camps to spring up if this government acts like every other one in the war and foreign espionage realm.

Ah, so you're a firm believer that it can't happen here?
Do you really trust the leaders of our government to behave morally, or with any restraint, when they think that you are their enemy?

Bringing out a bible to thump me with is not a way of furthering the argument. We’re talking the constitution remember? I don’t recall that being a religious document.

You got to talking about philosophical/worldview, in that manner it certainly is relevant.

It is religion and morality alone which can establish the principles upon which freedom can securely stand. The only foundation of a free constitution is pure virtue.
— John Adams

I know you imagine the world will permit us to keep lily white gloves on, but history doesn’t agree. I don’t trust our government much at all. However I sure as hell trust it a good deal more than foreign governments. There is a balance to be struck, and it is tricky between granting government enough power to protect us from others but not to grab so much power to threaten us.

Who's said anything about foreign governments?
Seriously, all I've said is that (a) the Constitution's purpose is to bind the government, and (b) allowing the government to ignore said constraints is dangerous.

47 posted on 12/13/2014 4:18:47 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark

OK, enough. I’m getting off this merry go round. When you blithely blow right past my fundamental point no matter how often I restate it, I’m done wasting my time.


48 posted on 12/13/2014 4:34:03 PM PST by drbuzzard (All animals are created equal, but some are more equal than others.)
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