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The White Conversation on Race
Color Lines - News For Action ^ | December 9, 2014 | Carla Murphy

Posted on 12/09/2014 3:07:53 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

With the national uproar surrounding the unpunished police killings of Michael Brown and Eric Garner, some white Americans say they are rethinking the lack of diversity in their lives—and the work they need to do to help create social change that lasts.

Take Philadelphia artist Katherine Fritz. In her attempt to understand events in Ferguson, she stumbled upon a 2013 national survey finding that white American social circles tend to be 91 percent white. Intrigued, she tested this finding in her own life. A self-described liberal who uses the term “micro-aggressions,” she was surprised to find that her social circle is 91.5 percent white.

“Whites can live, love, study, work, play and die in segregation,” says “Whiteness Studies” scholar Robin DiAngelo, “and still profess that race has no meaning in their lives.”

But something appears to be shifting in that in the weeks since news broke that there’d be no indictment in Officer Darren Wilson’s case. Dara Silverman of Showing Up Racial Justice {SURJ}, a six-year-old national network organizing whites for racial justice, is now managing conference calls with up to 500 new callers from around the country. In coming weeks, they’re planning more than 50 white-led demonstrations that’ll take place in largely white communities. “This is unprecedented,” Silverman says of the upsurge of interest.

Intentional conversations about racism—by whites, for whites and not of the KKK variety—are happening across the country. I spoke with a few community leaders about why it’s important that whites talk race and racism with one another and how those intra-group conversations could be better. Everyone has a different approach; what follows isn’t exhaustive or one-size-fits-all. And, no, un-friending people on Facebook didn’t make the Do list.

‘Deal With the Upset’

For white people who’re trying to understand why their reactions to race conversations are so fraught, DiAngelo’s concept of “white fragility,” is one way to get there. Although coined in a 2011 journal article, the term came into popular use this July in Seattle to describe whites’ inability to bear even civil criticism of a production featuring Japanese characters played by an all-white cast.

DiAngelo says that’s because white Americans live in spaces that protect them from race-based stress, “so we just fall apart around [the slightest] challenge to our racial reality.” She continues, “The average white person who notices some racism [from another white person] won’t say anything and that’s because we don’t want to deal with the upset.”

Amy Hunter is an African-American woman who four years ago founded a whites-only “Witnessing Whiteness” discussion group at her St. Louis YWCA. She says she’s busier than ever now. But she operates from the premise that “white people have conversations all the time that are racist”—and her groups are grounded in the same idea. Led for nine weeks by white facilitators, the groups examine how racism works in each participant’s life and then they work on unlearning it with their families and in their churches, neighborhoods and workplaces.

“The real goal of the groups is that they go back out into the white community and work with people who look like them. That is the intent,” Hunter says. “We have people who’re now holding race conversations in their churches. We’ve seen the impact be pretty positive.”

It’s Your Problem, Not Theirs

SURJ members often engage in direct action around issues affecting communities of color in their home cities. “We’ve been hearing from people of color in Ferguson that it’s exhausting to constantly be educating white people,” Silverman says. So with the recent surge in new members, Silverman says that it’s important to pair “white people who’ve been working on and thinking about race with those who haven’t been. They help prepare them.”

Also, Silverman adds, “I have racism within me. I have thoughts that are racist. Forgive the metaphor but sometimes racism is like vomit. You can’t hold it back—and it’s so much better to do that with another white person than with a person of color and having them clean it up.”

One of Katherine Fritz’s close friends is Mormon and she lives in a “small, very white” community in Illinois. “I think her definition of ‘racist’ was confined to the history books—like, ‘A racist is someone who wears a white hood and is overt in their hatred,’ ” she says via e-mail. “I shared Kiese Laymon’s recent [Vassar College] piece with her and I think it was a really eye-opening experience. She posted it on her Facebook page and it made me feel like, ‘Wow, Okay. She heard [his] voice, she learned something.’ I think, this was partly a result of the discussion we’ve been having,” says Fritz, who had been educating her friend about systemic racism.

“Bad” White People Won’t Just Disappear

For whites, DiAngelo says, “A racist is a bad person. Racism becomes about individual acts by individual people who’re bad.” So “good” whites tend to self-segregate from “bad” whites.

But “dividing yourself between ‘good’ and ‘bad’ whites isn’t progress,” says Hunter. Echoing a recent Huffington Post plea, she strongly discourages un-friending on Facebook because of the Michael Brown/Darren Wilson case. “I have no doubt Darren Wilson’s a good guy,” Hunter says she recently told a group of high-school students. “What I’m trying to change is the system where he’s been trained to unload his clip. What I’m trying to change is a system that says big black people are scary and you need to handle them a certain way. Darren Wilson did exactly what he was trained to do.” Hunter’s focus is on helping whites to change each other’s beliefs and patterns—not in perpetuating more separation in an already segregated country.

Silverman says whites need to step it up: “We want to move towards white people who’re trying to figure things out—even if that means we get a bit of their vomit on us,” Silverman says. “People of color get vomited on with this shit all the time. It’s our responsibility to step it up and show up even in those spaces where it’s hard and uncomfortable. That’s the work.”


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Politics; Society; Weird Stuff
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So a large segment of this country has gone 'round the bend?
1 posted on 12/09/2014 3:07:53 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Two posts down is the story of Jessica Chambers. She clearly wasn’t racisss,,, lotta good it did her.


2 posted on 12/09/2014 3:12:39 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Oh brutha!


3 posted on 12/09/2014 3:12:57 PM PST by Old Yeller (Civil rights are for civilized people.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Attention liberals: stop white shaming.


4 posted on 12/09/2014 3:16:01 PM PST by a fool in paradise (Shickl-Gruber's Big Lie gave us Hussein's Un-Affordable Care act (HUAC).)
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>>“What I’m trying to change is the system where he’s been trained to unload his clip.

Well, that whole story is just “blah, blah, blah”. But there is one part that matters: its a magazine, not a clip.


5 posted on 12/09/2014 3:16:42 PM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This person is lost and doesn’t care at all about genuine facts and the reality that exists around them.

When Michael Brown storngarm robs a store, and is recorded on camera roughing up the store clerk trying to stop him from stealing,

Michael Brown just validated the stereotype that big black men are scary dangerous people. No white person had anythign to do with promoting that view. Michael Brown affirmed that stereotype.

Thank the above-average violent black thugs that promote the stereotype. I spend zero time trying to convince anyone blacks are dangerous. I don’t have to. Blacks by their own actions, as a demographic - particularly young black males and young black females - do it by their own choices and actions/reactions towards others.

I am not going to be a statistic/victim of black violence. More and more people are seeing what is really going on, and deciding they aren’t going to be, either.


6 posted on 12/09/2014 3:17:13 PM PST by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The antidote:

Life at the Bottom

Paved With Good Intentions

The Bell Curve

7 posted on 12/09/2014 3:19:21 PM PST by pa_dweller
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Forget that contrived crap, here's the real conversation =>

Gun sales in Ferguson spike a staggering 700% as residents wait to see if Wilson will be indicted

Steve King, the owner of Metro Shooting Supplies in nearby Bridgeton, says he has sold 250 firearms this week. That is a 700% increase over the 30 to 40 guns the store typically sells in a week.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3228613/posts

8 posted on 12/09/2014 3:20:17 PM PST by Ken H (What happens on the internet stays on the internet.)
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To: Ken H

It’s coming to a head.


9 posted on 12/09/2014 3:21:27 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Note that there are no stats that show the self-segregation percentage of blacks. My guess is that it is just as high, if not higher. So what, a non-story with a statistic that is not surprising to me.


10 posted on 12/09/2014 3:22:52 PM PST by cport (How can political capital be spent on a bunch of ingrates)
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To: Old Yeller
Oh brutha!

I believe that about sums it up. Pardon me if I politely refrain from participating in this garbage.

11 posted on 12/09/2014 3:26:12 PM PST by Mark17
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Red Chinese had their Great Leap Forward under Mao. Political Correctness was the course of the day.


12 posted on 12/09/2014 3:26:22 PM PST by Zuben Elgenubi (NOPe to GOPe)
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To: Old Yeller
THE AUTHORESS...


13 posted on 12/09/2014 3:27:11 PM PST by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill ><>)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

No discussion is needed as far as I am concerned. I try to view people as individuals and I give people the benefit of the doubt in most circumstances. However, I refuse to bury my head in the sand and not employ common sense. All this “white privilege”, etc. is designed to make caucasians feel guilty and more amenable to wealth transfer programs, affirmative action, and all the rest. It is not working with me — no thanks. In this country, even in its declining state, everyone has the power to make a good life for themselves. That includes Americans of every race, ethnicity, and sex.


14 posted on 12/09/2014 3:28:58 PM PST by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters for Freedom and Rededication to the Principles of the U.S. Constitution)
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>>“I have no doubt Darren Wilson’s a good guy,” Hunter says she recently told a group of high-school students. “What I’m trying to change is the system where he’s been trained to unload his clip. <<

That target system will be called the “dead cop” system.

This like asking kindergarten children to define the Unified Theory of everything. Not only can they not understand the question, they are incapable of grasping how to formulate the answer.


15 posted on 12/09/2014 3:37:51 PM PST by freedumb2003 (AGW: Settled Science? If so, there would only be one model and it would agree with measurements)
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In her attempt to understand events in Ferguson, she stumbled upon a 2013 national survey finding that white American social circles tend to be 91 percent white.

White social circles are white.

16 posted on 12/09/2014 3:40:19 PM PST by sportutegrl
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I've got a one line conversation for them: hands up or I'll shoot. Want another? No reparations just repatriation. How about one for the asshole who breaks into my house. followed by followed by ka thump F*** them all, I don't care about their worthless whining asses.
17 posted on 12/09/2014 3:53:52 PM PST by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: sportutegrl
amazing, isn't it... who'd a thunk it??? a real MENSA candidate that one
18 posted on 12/09/2014 3:55:31 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -w- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What’s really happening is that a large segment of the population is saying eff off and I care anymore what you think.

That’s why it’s getting shrill out there.


19 posted on 12/09/2014 3:57:55 PM PST by OpusatFR (I did make that. No one else did the work.)
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That should read, I don’t care what you think anymore.


20 posted on 12/09/2014 3:59:19 PM PST by OpusatFR (I did make that. No one else did the work.)
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