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Black Lives Matter
Leo McNeil ^ | November 25, 2014 | Leo McNeil

Posted on 11/25/2014 4:31:16 AM PST by LeoMcNeil

Police Officer Darren Wilson was not indicted by a grand jury for the murder of Michael Brown. Based on the evidence it is clear that Wilson shot Brown in self defense. Brown had already robbed a convenience store, he had already attacked Wilson once trying to steal his gun. The evidence indicates that Brown charged at Wilson and Wilson shot him dead. There is no indictment because Wilson was completely justified in using force. That doesn’t matter to the progressive community organizers in Ferguson who are currently inciting the mob to burn the city to the ground. President Obama hasn’t helped the situation much at all, admonishing the country to try to understand the rioters. It’s difficult to understand why people would be rioting over a police officer shooting a criminal who was attacking him.

One of the signs that struck me read “black lives matter.” This is absolutely a true statement, which is why it’s so bewildering that the black community rallies around people like Michael Brown and Trayvon Martin. Brown was a criminal who attacked a cop, Martin picked the wrong guy to attack. These people aren’t worth rallying behind. Race is almost never a factor in murder. FBI statistics make clear, if you’re going to be murdered there is an overwhelming chance that you’ll be murdered by someone of your own race. In the case of blacks, 93% of blacks are murdered by other blacks. Per capita, blacks have the highest murder rate. Rather than rally around criminals, the black community and indeed America would be better off focusing on ways to reduce black on black crime. Black lives do matter and if the country can reduce the black murder rate hundreds if not thousands of lives can be saved each year.

Around 300,000 black babies are aborted each year. In 2012, New York City alone accounted for over 31,000 black abortions. Since Roe v. Wade was decided, over 13 million black babies have been killed. Black lives do matter, including the unborn. Planned Parenthood outlets and other abortion clinics are disproportionately located in black neighborhoods. If these protesters actually care about saving black lives, the biggest impact they can have is opposing abortion and encouraging mothers not to kill their babies. Instead, Ferguson is being burned to the ground over a criminal while a holocaust is taking place at the local abortion clinic. Make no mistake, the abortion holocaust affects all races in America. However, it disproportionately hits the black community.

The progressives whipping up race hatred in Ferguson don’t really care about black community. They’re only interested in making political points and organizing people by stirring up racial prejudice. Thousands of black lives will be lost in Chicago, Los Angeles, New Orleans, Detroit and other progressive cities, all at the hands of other blacks. To focus on one act of police use of force, a justifiable act no less, and declare the cops are out to get blacks is so ludicrous it’s amazing anyone can say it with a straight face. Not only do these people say it with a straight face, the whip up the mob to burn down their own city. Of course, that’s assuming the mob in Ferguson is actually from the community. It would surprise no one if we later discover that nearly everyone arrested is from outside metro St. Louis. The progressive community organizers are putting on a threatening show, for them it really doesn’t matter whether it’s authentic or not.

Obama and Eric Holder have said we need to have a honest discussion about race. These two may actually be right about something, we do need to have an honest discussion. To be honest though, the conversation won’t go in the direction they might desire. Those two want to pretend like it’s the 60’s where tyrannical white police departments target the black community. In 2014 that’s about as dishonest a conversation as we can have. If we want an honest discussion about race, we need to start with the appalling black on black crime statistics which create the need for a large police presence in black neighborhoods. If we can do something to lower the black on black crime in this country, local communities can pull back on their police presence. Until we can be honest about the problems facing the black community, we can expect more mothers at the cemetery burying their murdered sons. No one wants such a scene but until we start having honest conversations it’s going to continue in massive numbers.


TOPICS: Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: ferguson; obama; racism; riots
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1 posted on 11/25/2014 4:31:16 AM PST by LeoMcNeil
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To: LeoMcNeil

but...food desert!


2 posted on 11/25/2014 4:36:50 AM PST by dogcaller
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To: LeoMcNeil

Obuma and Holder....Not an honest bone in their bodies....and the biggest “I hate Whitey” clubbers in my lifetime.


3 posted on 11/25/2014 4:38:48 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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> 93% of blacks are murdered by other blacks.

If that were true, there would be very few black folks left.

I think what he meant to say was ...

93% of murders of black people are committed by other black people.


4 posted on 11/25/2014 4:39:01 AM PST by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: LeoMcNeil
Police Officer Darren Wilson was not indicted by a grand jury for the murder of Michael Brown.

I stopped reading right here--sorry.

Michael Brown was NOT murdered. He was killed in self defense. Murder is the wanton killing of another outside of the law, with intent.

5 posted on 11/25/2014 4:41:57 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: LeoMcNeil

Reactions matter.


6 posted on 11/25/2014 4:42:12 AM PST by cripplecreek (You can't half ass conservatism.)
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To: LeoMcNeil
Blacks are going to keep this up and more parts of their neighborhoods will not be patrolled by police at all. 20 years ago in the black areas of DC, police had to escort EMS.

If the black "community" which is a BS term, btw don't want police, I say grant them their wish. I am sick of it. Maybe when they see what it is like to not have cops, business, services etc, they will clean up their act. I am tired of being blamed for their mess, they made it, now they can clean it up. Only blacks can fix blacks. They need to listen to Jesse Petersen instead of Jessie Jackson, Allen West in stead of Al Sharpton, etc.

7 posted on 11/25/2014 4:42:38 AM PST by defconw (If not now, WHEN?)
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To: ShadowAce

You and me both. Same exact spot, I moved on to the comments.

I don’t have time for the Leftist idiocy on display.


8 posted on 11/25/2014 4:44:28 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Westbrook

CSPIN had a chart that showed 92% of arrests in Ferguson were black

Of course they neglected to mention Ferguson is at least 80% black...

MSM pouring gas on the fire


9 posted on 11/25/2014 4:48:41 AM PST by Califreak (Hope and Che'nge is killing U.S./CDC=Contagion Distribution Center)
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To: LeoMcNeil

Clearly, they DON’T matter.

........at least, not very much.


10 posted on 11/25/2014 4:50:56 AM PST by Flintlock
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To: FreedomPoster

“black lives matter.”

It seems black lives only matter when they are taken by a white guy.


11 posted on 11/25/2014 4:51:21 AM PST by CaptainKip
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To: LeoMcNeil

All lives matter.

From the unborn to the incarcerated for life, all lives matter. No matter age, race, color, creed, religion or gender.

That being said, enabling unmotivated people by constantly keeping them addicted to the government tit and taking away their motivation to succeed is not helping people live. It’s merely helping them survive. Survival in of itself does not help the soul grow.

Mother nature is an excellent motivational tool as it causes some people to get the Darwin Award or be motivated. While necessity is the mother of invention, it is was first the mother of motivation.


12 posted on 11/25/2014 4:51:34 AM PST by tired&retired
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To: LeoMcNeil

The Great Society has been telling inner city black men that they don’t matter for three generations.

This is the result.

The lives of black men don’t matter.

That’s not my opinion.

It’s the opinion of their supposed leaders.

If you’re a poor black woman in America, here is the welfare-created message from our govt to you: “here’s your check, stay out of our economy and society.”

If you’re a poor black male, the message is substantially different. “Get lost. Kill yourselves, go to jail, we don’t care. Your life doesn’t matter.”

That’s a fifty-year message.


13 posted on 11/25/2014 4:53:29 AM PST by ziravan (Choose Sides.)
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To: LeoMcNeil
The progressives whipping up race hatred in Ferguson don’t really care about black community.

That's true. And the Obama-Holder U.S. Dept. of Just Us, the race-grievance industry, and most employees of the MSM don't give a whit about white lives (except their own of course).

The FBI and other sources of homicide by law enforcement figures below include the majority of all police departments.

Whites are the most likely to die while being arrested.

The Obama-Holder U.S. Dept. Just Us and the race-grievance industry will of course exploit all shootings to the max vis-a-vis race more than any concern for the poor victim.

The ARD data show that whites are more likely to die while being arrested (and IMO there is no doubt that some of those deaths were the intention of the police).

But the main point is I bet that policemen don't care about race compared to protecting themselves from being killed or maimed.

And along with aborted black lives how come progressives don't say anything about Ms Carey the unarmed, young black woman chased, surrounded and gunned down by federal agents in D.C.? Where's the Obama-Holder U.S. Dept. of Just Us, the race-grievance industry and MSM employees caring about her and her baby?

Arrest-Related Deaths, 2003-2009 - Statistical Tables

"From 2003 through 2009, a total of 4,813 deaths were reported to the Bureau of Justice Statistics’ (BJS) Arrest-Related Deaths (ARD) program."

Of these, about 6 in 10 deaths (2,931) were classified as homicide by law enforcement personnel, and 4 in 10 (1,882) were attributed to other manners of death.

Table 1 Number of reported arrest-related deaths, by manner of death, 2003-2009

Manner of death 2003-2009 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009
All manners 4,813 627 673 689 721 745 629 729
Homicide —by law enforcement 2,931 376 375 377 447 455 404 497
by other persons 27 3 4 4 2 7 3 4
Suicide 541 60 84 82 67 78 76 94
Intoxication 525 83 83 90 76 89 54 50
Accidental injury 272 53 41 47 39 35 28 29
Natural causes 244 26 46 32 34 42 33 31
Unknown 273 26 40 57 56 39 31 24
Note: Due to variation in reporting, caution should be used in comparing counts from year to year. See Methodology for information on missing data by state for each year. Counts may differ from previous publication due to additional information.

Table 5 Number of reported arrest-related deaths, by manner of death and demographic characteristics, 2003-2009

Demographic
characteristics
All manners Homicide Suicide Intoxication Accident Natural causes Unknown
Total 4,813 2,958 541 525 272 244 273
Sex
Male 4,594 2,851 517 490 259 218 259
Female 218 107 24 35 13 26 13
Unknown 1 0 0 0 0 0 1
Race/Hispanic origin
White, non-Hispanic 2,026 1,233 327 178 95 110 83
Black, non-Hispanic 1,529 937 80 217 111 85 99
Hispanic 949 599 110 109 55 29 47
Other* 150 107 12 17 4 4 6
Unknown 159 82 12 4 7 16 38
Age
17 or younger 127 99 6 5 13 0 4
18-24 909 685 80 53 54 10 27
25-34 1,391 893 140 177 65 41 75
35-44 1,238 658 159 190 78 66 87
45-54 752 390 105 84 45 75 53
55 or older 317 188 44 11 12 52 10
Unknown 79 45 7 5 5 0 17
*Includes American Indians, Alaska Natives, Asians, Native Hawaiians, other Pacific Islanders, and persons of two or more races.

To me this shows that it is not a racial thing. It happens to all races. These figures however do not show those thought "murdered" by police. I have not yet located data for recent years. Why can't I find data for recent years? I do not know.. maybe the Dept of Just Us and Race-Grievance Industry don't want it known that whites are the most likely to die being arrested.

And for those who rightfully point out that white our number blacks by at least 6-to-1 I ask to ponder these numbers

RE: The ARD program data that I posted above (first table), it is true that blacks represent about 12% of the national population and that suggests that the figures "prove" discrimination; to wit, there are way too many blacks compared to white majority.

Good point. The same thing ought to apply to the following homicide and other crime data it seems to me.

Expanded Homicide Data
Table 6 data for multiple years.

FBI Homicides Statistics

Year of
Stats
Race of
Victims

Total
White
Offenders
Black
Offenders
Unknown
& other
2012
White
3,128
2,614
431
83
Black
2,648
193
2,412
43
2011
White
3,172
2,630
448
94
Black
2,695
193
2,447
55
2010
White
3,327
2,777
447
103
Black
2,720
218
2,459
43
2009
White
3,518
2,963
454
101
Black
2,867
209
2,604
54
2008
White
3,643
3,036
504
103
Black
3,024
230
2,722
72
2007
White
3,587
2,918
566
103
Black
3,221
245
2,905
71
2006
White
3,709
3,026
573
110
Black
3,303
208
3,034
61
2005
White
3,785
3,150
516
119
Black
3,289
230
2,984
75
2004
White
3,727
3,123
522
85
Black
3,067
228
2,784
55
1995
White
4,954
4,124
699
131
Black
4,764
281
4,422
61

I did not find data for the years 1996 through 2003

www.fbi.gov About Us CJIS UCR Crime in the U.S. Here's the links to most of the FBI tables I referenced above.

Here's 2012

Here's 2011

Here's 2010

Here's 2009

Here's 2008

Here's 2007

Here's 2006

Here's 2005

It is long past the time when facts should be made public to expose the lies and misrepresentations of the Obama-Holder demagogues and the race-grievance industry.

14 posted on 11/25/2014 4:54:13 AM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: Westbrook

dude really? I think we all knew his context on the 93% comment.


15 posted on 11/25/2014 4:57:04 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright (www.FireKarlRove.com NOW)
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To: ShadowAce

True, but the indictment, had it come down, would have been for murder perhaps.


16 posted on 11/25/2014 4:58:06 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright (www.FireKarlRove.com NOW)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

> I think we all knew his context on the 93% comment.

Yes, but language has syntax for a reason. Why give your opposition ammunition to label you as a knuckle-dragging rube that doesn’t even know the simplest rules of conveying information accurately.


17 posted on 11/25/2014 4:59:34 AM PST by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: LeoMcNeil

The place to start would be lack of fathers. That’s the single biggest indicator of crime and poverty.


18 posted on 11/25/2014 5:00:28 AM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: LeoMcNeil

They only matter as far as they are racistic capital.


19 posted on 11/25/2014 5:01:46 AM PST by The_Media_never_lie (The media must be defeated any way it can be done.)
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To: ShadowAce
The author said he wasn't indicted for murder because he didn't murder anyone.
20 posted on 11/25/2014 5:02:15 AM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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