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University of Chicago Professor: "We Should Stop Putting Women in Jail. For Anything."
Pundit Press ^ | 11/7/14 | Aurelius

Posted on 11/07/2014 8:07:49 AM PST by therightliveswithus

Women should never go to jail, no matter what the crime, be it murder, assault, illicit drug dealing, or anything else. That is the idea of Patricia O’Brien, an associate professor at the Jane Addams College of Social Work at University of Illinois at Chicago.

In an article in the Washington Post entitled, “We should stop putting women in jail. For anything,” O’Brien made the case that women should never, under any circumstances, go to prison.

O’Brien asked questions such as, “What purpose is served by subjecting the most disempowered, abused and nonviolent women to the perpetually negative environment of prisons?”

Sending females to prison, O’Brien argued, doesn’t help anything. People and children rely on women, she wrote, much more than men. On top of that, “Efforts to make prison “work” for women have only perpetuated the growth of the prison industrial complex.”

What should be done with women who commit crimes? “In Britain,” O’Brien explains, “advocates propose community sentences for nonviolent offenders and housing violent offenders in small custodial centers near their families.”

And “there is evidence that these approaches can work in the United States.”

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TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: chicago; education; feminism
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To: NautiNurse

Another anecdote to support the old adage: Those who can, do. Those who can’t, teach, and those who can’t teach, teach gym.


41 posted on 11/07/2014 8:58:03 AM PST by outpostinmass2
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To: envisio

Wealth has nothing to do with breeding. In many cases a fool and their money were lucky enough to find each other in the first place.

People who work hard to build something generally don’t have time for this sort of thing. When traders were pulling in $20M/year in 2006, it was literally falling from the sky (Fannie/Freddie and Warren Buffet rubber stamping dog$hit MBS into AAA investment grade instruments churches and pensions could buy).

This is where the prostitute and the housewife have an ethical dispute.

The prostitute would tell the wife, “What I’m doing is honest work. I made no false promises, and I delivered good (probably great) service on time at an agreed to price. You lie to this guy, tell him you love him, and then eat his food and live in his house, spending the day coming up with good reasons not to have sex with him.

I made no claims on what he worked hard to build, his children, or any other choices he’s made in his life. What I do has a performance guarantee. What you do is essentially fraudulent - a form of embezzlement. You claim to be working in his best interests, but you spend your days bleeding his wallet and his soul.

And at the end of the transaction, if either party loses interest in further business, each party can choose to walk away from further business. A guy tries to walk away from his wife for any number of legitimate reasons, he can expect the full weight of the county, state, and federal government fall upon him.”

I’ll know that women are ready to lead the world when they unilaterally call for a reform of the family legal system and seek to amend the selective service requirement for women.

Before admitting woman the first to the military, I would have insisted amending the law on selective service to include women.

The GOP is the stupid party. Reagan agreed to the immigration deal he signed because someone told him if he paid today, he’d get his fence on Tuesday. Tuesday never came. Still hasn’t come.

We’ll see how much Charlie Brown is still left in the party in the next couple of years. We know how much Lucy is left in the Left.


42 posted on 11/07/2014 9:11:03 AM PST by RinaseaofDs
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To: therightliveswithus

Women prisoners are nastier and more violent than men. More likely to fight each other and assault prison employees.

Not sure what you would do with them other than lock them down.


43 posted on 11/07/2014 9:11:12 AM PST by dangerdoc ((this space for rent))
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To: hal ogen

Maybe they should put HER up for attorney general.

‘Course she’d have to work “people of color, LGBT, college students with too much debt,” et al. et al., into her Get Out of Jail Free crowd.


44 posted on 11/07/2014 9:11:16 AM PST by Fightin Whitey
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To: therightliveswithus

Seize their assets, garnish their wages and threaten to imprison them, good for the gander and all that.


45 posted on 11/07/2014 9:12:44 AM PST by dangerdoc ((this space for rent))
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To: RinaseaofDs
There are some problems with the prostitute's argument:

1) "and I delivered good (probably great) service" Did the agreed upon service include the spirochetes you also delivered?

2) " spending the day coming up with good reasons not to have sex with him." Assumes facts not in evidence ... at least, I have not found it so.

3) his children How many of those did you abort?

4) What I do has a performance guarantee. Right. If his wallet doesn't perform, your pimp will enforce the guarantee.

5) but you spend your days bleeding his wallet and his soul. Again, assumes facts not in evidence.

This "prostitute's indictment" is at best returned against a stereotype. Stereotypes, of course, exist because they contain some truth ...

46 posted on 11/07/2014 9:23:38 AM PST by NorthMountain
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To: therightliveswithus

Off with her head! </sarc>


47 posted on 11/07/2014 9:34:07 AM PST by DonkeyBonker (Hard to paddle against the flow of sewage coming out of the White House.)
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To: NorthMountain

“This “prostitute’s indictment” is at best returned against a stereotype. Stereotypes, of course, exist because they contain some truth ... “

Exactly. In a marriage based on love and sanctioned by God, the prostitute’s argument falls apart completely.

I live in Seattle. Show me a short fat guy with no fashion sense driving a Prius in Bellevue and I’ll show you a 5’11” blond waiting for her fitness instructor to show up after he left that morning for work.

Every nerd wants to marry Penny.

You’ve seen women wear the T-shirts: “I wish these were brains”

I’m surprised I haven’t seen something similar for software people: “I wish penis size wasn’t inversely proportional to IQ”


48 posted on 11/07/2014 9:35:44 AM PST by RinaseaofDs
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To: therightliveswithus

Would that include those who identify as women?


49 posted on 11/07/2014 9:42:06 AM PST by Ouchthatonehurt ("When you're going through hell, keep going." - Sir Winston Churchill)
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To: Pollster1

Yes. This author makes a good point, without even realizing she’s making it.

Today we deal with criminals by putting them into long-term storage. Climate-controlled storage, compete with big screen TVs, arts and crafts, exercise equipment, circle-jerk counseling and rehab sessions.

These people have a debt to society. One they should be repaying.

So time to shut down the prisons, move these convicts (regardless of gender) into barracks style living (once they’ve been lo-jacked) and put them to WORK. Put the more violent ones out into the woods somewhere far, far from humanity and have them plant trees. Or build logging roads. The non-violent ones can be kept closer in, maybe get a little work release but otherwise get ojt in practical skills (carpentry, seamstressing, plumbing, etc) they can apply when their time is done.


50 posted on 11/07/2014 9:44:38 AM PST by tanknetter
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To: therightliveswithus

It is difficult to overcome stupidity. And college, in many cases, will add to that stupidity.


51 posted on 11/07/2014 9:46:25 AM PST by mulligan (I)
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To: therightliveswithus

AcaDUMBia strikes again.


52 posted on 11/07/2014 9:50:47 AM PST by Amagi (Lenin: "Socialized Medicine is the Keystone to the Arch of the Socialist State.")
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To: therightliveswithus
“What purpose is served by subjecting the most disempowered, abused and nonviolent women to the perpetually negative environment of prisons?”

It keeps them from victimizing those even more disempowered, abused and nonviolent than themselves.

53 posted on 11/07/2014 10:18:37 AM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: therightliveswithus

Women can do everything men can do!! But should suffer no consequences for it!!


54 posted on 11/07/2014 10:19:43 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: therightliveswithus

Perhaps just execute women five minutes after conviction for anything that would send them to jail. That way we would not have the shameful condition of keeping women in jail.


55 posted on 11/07/2014 10:51:54 AM PST by arthurus
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To: Arm_Bears

I would like to see women get treated the same as men in sentencing.


56 posted on 11/07/2014 10:52:48 AM PST by CityCenter (In remembrance of Buckley, my beloved beagle who passed on 11/3/2014.)
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To: therightliveswithus

What did she do that she doesn’t want to go to jail for?


57 posted on 11/07/2014 11:24:52 AM PST by Trillian
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To: therightliveswithus

Hmm...OK, Patty, so tell us what crime you’re contemplating.


58 posted on 11/07/2014 11:30:13 AM PST by Billthedrill
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To: therightliveswithus

THE STUPID... it Burns hotter than the surface of the sun.

Sex or Gender if you prefer has nothing to do with the character and the capability and... yes willingness to harm someone else either physically or psychologically.

The ‘proposal’ fails on so... so many levels that it nearly boggles the mind in how to rationally refute what she has proposed.


59 posted on 11/07/2014 12:22:46 PM PST by The Working Man
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To: therightliveswithus
The Left does seem to want to implement the complementary rule - "We should start putting all men in jail, for anything."

But the sudden disappearance of male Democrat voters seems to be thwarting their clever plans... :)

60 posted on 11/07/2014 12:26:18 PM PST by Mr. Jeeves (Heteropatriarchal Capitalist)
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