Posted on 11/04/2014 8:19:55 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum
Best way to answer this might be that if all of that pablum were actually true on its own (without the need for distortion), then the Dems would be sweeping the night tonight.
#8 - Domestic oil production has indeed sky-rocketed, and that is a good thing. Did Obama’s policies have ANYTHING to do with the expansion? Not in the least —the technology of fracking was responsible, the effort of American petroleum engineers. Obama’s energy secretary is on record, looking forward to gasoline costing $10 per gallon, something highly unlikely if American energy production were now at levels prevailing six years ago. Oil production has expanded IN SPITE of Obama’s policies, not because of them.
Don’t have time for a complete rebuttal but #1 is based on surveys. They can be easily fudged by being a little selective in who you survey, or which answers you keep, which ones you discard for subjective reasons. Further, the index is calculated via various responses to the survey questions and unspecified weighting factors. No information on if these weights have been stable or altered along the way to manipulate the result.
Here are some answers:
1. Economic growth—by government spending and not considering price increases.
2. Private sector job growth— they’re mostly part time, reduced wages.
3. Unemployment—everybody’s now either part-time, or dropped out of the market, & they’re probably counting jobs taken by Hb-1 workers and illegals.
4. Stock market growth—there is no where else to invest money.
5.Federal budget deficit—new taxes for health care not yet paid for treatment. Also, remember they’re talking about the budget, not the actual trillions in federal dept. That’s bigger.
6. Spending has decreased thanks mostly to military cut-backs. A 1.4 increase in a shrinking economy isn’t much to boast about.
7. Lower income taxes reflect lower incomes. duh.
8. Foreign oil dependence—God this is getting hilarious.
9 Health insurance? Check the deductibles.
-— and so on.
#14 is based on including people turned back at the border as deportations.
No other administration has counted it that way.
Mention what unemployment was exactly six years into bushs term. I think we were right around 4.7 or so just before the pelosi takeover at this exact moment in 2006
#3 us based on counting people that left the labor force unwilling as. Or longer employed. The U-6 employment rate has dropped little, and the labor force participation rate is the lowest since the Carter administration.
Also compare the amenic 1-2% growth rates now to reagans recovery or even the 90s. We’re in a slow, incremental growth rate. Worst ever coming out of a massive downturn.
They substitute TIME for actual growth. Simple internet searches will give you a plethora of links to prove that the recovery is the weakest one out of a recession in history. GDP is about half of the average since 1960, and it took until this year for stocks to recover lost ground. Fracking has happened despite, not because of Obama. Take fracking out of the equation and our pitiful economic numbers are dismal.
Key word is ‘In just about every measurable way’, Under Reagan unemployment was higher longer, but it was because people were flooding into the work force. Everyone was getting a job. So yeah, the number was worse in this case, but it was because the economy was better. I remember those private sector job creation numbers even now. 400k plus per month, even hit some 680k. Those weren’t government jobs folks.
There are people sore justifiable with Reagan (at least in their mind) Reagan believed in the private economy and in some cases that meant further rusting out the rust belt and encouraging people to move out to establish themselves a career. Mostly effected were the young, like I was at the time. I was better for it.
I remember how the press were constantly doing stories on the left behind, those people locked into welfare that refused to move. Same people you now see living in the hood of Detroit are the children of these people you saw in the ads in the 80s.
1. We’ve now had 63 straight months of economic expansion.
That’s right, for 63 consecutive months the US economy has gotten progressively better. That includes 54 consecutive months of private sector job growth. Forbes magazine, no fan of President Obama, crunched the numbers and demonstrated how the economic recovery under President Obama has been better in just about every measurable way than the recovery under President Reagan.
Looks like they are all lies
#6 is based on the stimulus spending in Obama’s first year to Bush.
Technically, that spending was still in the last fiscal year started by Bush. But, it was initiated by Obama.
Using that inflated number as the baseline makes it look like subsequent years has a much slower rate of growth in spending.
For #1, Opinions expressed by Forbes Contributors are their own. So, no, this is not Forbes opinion.
I remember that Reagan and Bush Sr were in office when fracking was first recognized as a possibility to tap shale. It took high oil prices and private industry to make it happen.
I remember reading about this in magazines, they said the technology was nearly production ready, all they needed was sustained oil prices above 40-50 dollars for it to be profitable.
Indeed president Bush added 1.4 trillion in debt his last year in office. Of course, remember that he had a hostile congress to contend with and was fighting a war too.
His first year in office, Obama racked up a 1.7 trillion dollar debt and has only been below 1 trillion dollars since.
The reason that the unemployment figures are so low, is that those numbers are based on people getting ng unemployment benefits. When those run out, unemployed people no longer are counted as unemployed. The actual unemployment rate, so I am told is actually hovering around 11% or so.
Yes, 7 to 10 million people have been added to insurance rolls. Of course that doesn’t take into account the 10 meters lion who have lost theirs.
The average household has an income which is $2,500 less than when Obama came into office.
All those jobs created sure look good on paper. Of course they don’t take into account the jobs which have been lost and tha fact that the net jobs has not kt up with population growth
#1 Private Sector Job Growth: all net job growth has gone to immigrants legal and illegal
http://cis.org/all-employment-growth-since-2000-went-to-immigrants
To support the claim of “record” deportations in 2012, the Obama administration and its supporters cite the 409,000 deportations attributed to ICE that year. This is the highest number of removals credited to ICE in a single year; however, the number is higher because it includes the largest number of Border Patrol cases that ever have been transferred to ICE for processing in a single year. It does not reflect an increase in enforcement activity. In past years, these cases would have been handled by the Border Patrol, and counted in total deportations, but not as removals. Removals are at best half the number of total deportations, and do not represent the entire scope of enforcement actions taken by DHS enforcement agencies.
The President himself confirmed this statistical manipulation in 2011, speaking at a roundtable for Hispanic reporters:
“The statistics are actually a little deceptive because what we’ve been doing is, with the stronger border enforcement, we’ve been apprehending folks at the borders and sending them back. That is counted as a deportation, even though they may have only been held for a day or 48 hours, sent back — that’s counted as a deportation.” he said.
http://www.cis.org/ICE-Illegal-Immigrant-Deportations
#2 and #3:
all net job growth since 2000 has been jobs for immigrants, legal and illegal:
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/02/07/Black-Teen-Unemployment-Jumps-to-38
unemployment of all teens put at 28.5% by Businessweek:
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/02/07/Black-Teen-Unemployment-Jumps-to-38
unemployment of Black teens set at 38%, Breitbart:
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/02/07/Black-Teen-Unemployment-Jumps-to-38
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