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‘Bombshell: Maui Police Department; Loretta Fuddy’s Original Cause Of Death Is Drowning’
Birtherreport.com ^ | 10-29-2014 | Linda Jordan

Posted on 10/29/2014 6:04:18 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike

When Hawaii Health Director Loretta Fuddy, a central player in the production of Barack Obama’s controversial birthcertificate died in a mysterious plane crash, those of us who are convinced that the birth certificate was forged, suspected foul play. Of course we were belittled. A month later, the cause of her death was released, cardiac arrhythmia. Now, a recently discovered report from a Maui Police Detective reveals that Loretta Fuddy’s heart wasn’t the problem after all. She drowned…. with her life jacket on.

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TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; fuddy; hawaii; kenyanbornmuzzie; lorettafuddy; maui; naturalborncitizen; obama
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To: Exmil_UK

‘Can you blame Butter keeping matters close to her chest after after the Sharyl Atkinson Revelations about:-
1/ CIA/NSA software being used to hack her computer and plant *classified* material?

2/ Install a *fibre optic line* without her knowledge and hack her skype account to switch on her Ipad mic as a bug to listen in to her home conversations or calls.

This is the same administration that consorts with ex-Black panthers and “retired” WUO communist domestic terrorists.

And may the Almighty protect us a Senate that allows a appointment of a man to the level CIA director who spent a year studying in **Cairo** in his early adult life. AFTER 911.’

+1


201 posted on 10/31/2014 10:33:10 AM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: butterdezillion
The records that are in Linda’s report are records that I received from the MCPD. They have these records.

So let me get this straight. The MCPD provided you with three documents that state that Dr. Harle performed the autopsy. But they can't provide you with some additional records (besides those three, all of which say she was there) to prove that she was there. From that you conclude...what? That they were willing to mock up documents that falsely claimed she performed the autopsy, but not willing to mock up an expense report? What "records which show that Dr. HARLE was on Molokai" were you hoping to get?

202 posted on 10/31/2014 11:38:50 AM PDT by Ha Ha Thats Very Logical
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To: Exmil_UK; humblegunner
Regarding your post #200 -

"What you talkin' 'bout, Willis?"

I have offered no opinion about anything on this thread other than the condition of Butter's keyboard.

203 posted on 10/31/2014 11:50:22 AM PDT by shibumi ("Walk through the fire - Fly through the smoke")
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To: ethical
The public record shows that no cause of death was assigned at pronouncement of death. They don’t do that. You can’t assign a cause of death before the autopsy.

Do you have a source for that? Because I've done some searching for when and how a preliminary cause of death is declared, and I haven't found any really clear explanations. I did find this page by a British pathologist that says, "In "routine natural deaths" in England, 34% of the time the process that was believed to be the cause of death prior to autopsy was completely wrong." And I see that Joan Rivers's daughter has said no to an autopsy, so that cause of death will never be determined--but they've certainly announced one.

Now, I know Fuddy's wasn't a "routine natural death." But you've made a flat assertion that they don't assign even a preliminary cause of death before the autopsy. What's your source for that?

204 posted on 10/31/2014 11:52:22 AM PDT by Ha Ha Thats Very Logical
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To: Ha Ha Thats Very Logical

Acknowledqment of the existence of the taped autopsy, which is standard procedure.

The record of a phone call to Molokai when the death was pronounced.

This is standard stuff.

And I did not request ADDITIONAL records; those were the lawyers’ words. I made a new request for records. If they had to send me the autopsy report aqain that’s what they had to do - because that is simple verification that those records mean she was there. They wouldn’t qive those records to me in response to the specific request for records indicatinq that she was there. They know those records don’t prove that she was there.

And the fact that they never saw a body with socks, shoes, and bracelets on - and they never paid for Harle to fly to Molokai - and the autopsy was said to beqin before she could even have qotten there - and the fact that they said HRS 841-3 wasn’t in effect..... well, that’s just 4 more confirmations of the same thinq that they confirmed throuqh their “no responsive records” reply to my new request for records.

Sure they could do whatever they wanted. These thinqs that I’ve cauqht aren’t because they couldn’t have done thinqs riqht. It’s because there’s never a perfect crime. They screwed up. It’s how criminals qet cauqht ALL THE TIME. In this instance, thouqh, they have the AQ’s orders to back them up leqally, and they can always count on normalcy bias to keep people from beinq willinq to see what’s riqht in front of their eyes.

Or you tell me: why was HRS 841-3 not in effect? Neither that statute nor any other HI statute says that the coroner loses jurisdiction if somebody else is also investiqatinq an incident. So what WOULD make HRS 841-3 not apply in this particular instance? The very fact that they said it doesn’t apply tells us that THEY are claiminq this is not your averaqe ordinary event.


205 posted on 10/31/2014 12:45:38 PM PDT by butterdezillion (Note to self : put this between arrow keys: img src=""/)
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To: Ha Ha Thats Very Logical

Detective Winfrey never qave any statement of what was thouqht to be the cause of death BEFORE THE AUTOPSY. His statement was AFTER the autopsy had already been done. So your point is moot even if it would have applied to Fuddy.

The fact of the matter is that it was only AFTER Winfrey collected half the clothes that Fuddy’s body would have actuallly had on her and took photoqraphs that he won’t tell us what they’re of... and AFTER the autopsy was done by Harle who wasn’t flown to Molokai and couldn’t have qotten there in time for the autopsy anyway... and in spite of the fact that he supposedly didn’t have jurisdiction to be investiqatinq anythinq anyway... that he said what was believed to be the cause of death at that point: drowninq.

I don’t know if you can see it on what Linda provided, but for the disposition of Winfrey’s supplement note, which is stated riqht after “The preliminary cause of death is Drowninq”, it says, “Pendinq Final Autopsy Report/Toxicoloqy Results”. He’s just waitinq on the final autopsy report, which was not completed until January 24th - nearly 6 weeks after the “death”.


206 posted on 10/31/2014 1:00:35 PM PDT by butterdezillion (Note to self : put this between arrow keys: img src=""/)
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To: Ha Ha Thats Very Logical

Yes, just research actual autopsy reports. In this instance the MPD records have been published as to when the autopsy was requested, when the pronouncement was made and when the autopsy was conducted. “preliminary cause” did not enter the picture until after the autopsy.


207 posted on 10/31/2014 1:20:34 PM PDT by ethical
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To: butterdezillion
And I did not request ADDITIONAL records; those were the lawyers’ words. I made a new request for records.

Who the hell are you to be requesting records of autopsies?

You're nobody, some crazy woman with a blog.

If they don't provide you anything, it doesn't mean there is a conspiracy.

What it means is that you have no authority to demand jack sh@t.

Do you fantasize about being Orly Taitz or something?

There's a whole big old world out there, sweetiecakes.

Poking around on birther blogs for "evidence" will make you sick if you do too much of it.

Now I'm sure that this regime has done some pretty effed-up things
but I'm also sure that it ain't YOU who is going to "bust it wide open".

208 posted on 10/31/2014 1:59:08 PM PDT by humblegunner (Why hello, Captain Trips.)
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To: Tupelo

The valid answers are holed up in mama Stanley Ann’s history from the time she was first in an Indonesian guru’s bed with Muhammid Subuh till she was allowed back with another husband. Obama’s history was closed by his own prerogatives once he was elected POTHUSA with the power to do so.


209 posted on 10/31/2014 2:25:08 PM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: Ha Ha Thats Very Logical; ethical

Under a new statistical gathering method called “meaningful use” that been around since 2012, hospitals are required to list “preliminary cause of death” in the electronic medical record. They actually have a specific field for it.

This memo for St Peter’s Hospital in Albany New York explained their use of “preliminary cause of death”

“As part of meaningful use requirements the preliminary cause of death must be captured in the electronic medical record. The preliminary cause of death is the initial diagnosis given at the time of death. This is not the final determination that is documented on the death certificate and does not need to be the same. This does not replace the death certificate documentation.”

https://www.sphcs.org/workfiles/Physicians/MD_memo_MU.pdf


210 posted on 10/31/2014 3:25:49 PM PDT by 4Zoltan
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To: shibumi

Drink Ovaltine


211 posted on 10/31/2014 3:33:54 PM PDT by 4Zoltan
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To: ethical; Ha Ha Thats Very Logical

If preliminary cause of death was listed as part of her medical record, it would not be in the public records.


212 posted on 10/31/2014 3:42:07 PM PDT by 4Zoltan
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To: 4Zoltan

Surprisingly enough, I do.

The wife and I keep both the chocolate and the malt flavor on hand and make milk shakes out of it.


213 posted on 10/31/2014 4:10:20 PM PDT by shibumi ("Walk through the fire - Fly through the smoke")
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To: shibumi; 4Zoltan

Just don’t get confused and buy Qvaltine. It’s not nearly as good. The included conspiracies cause a distinct off-taste.


214 posted on 10/31/2014 4:35:49 PM PDT by ConstantSkeptic (Be careful about preconceptions)
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To: ConstantSkeptic; 4Zoltan

Yeq. I know.

I qot a bubch of that stuff by mistake

But I took it back and qot a refubd which I sqebt on the qood stuff.


215 posted on 10/31/2014 4:47:21 PM PDT by shibumi ("Walk through the fire - Fly through the smoke")
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To: 4Zoltan
This is not what the medical examiner in Hawaii did.You are denying the record of what actually happened for the protocol some hospital does for patients who died in hospital. Totally different that an accident victim. Read the article. An autopsy was performed at 7:00am, the preliminary cause of death was reported by the Detective, Deputy Coroner, at 10:28 am. AFTER the autopsy folks. It seems like you did not read the article or review the documents attached to it, or read the citations.
216 posted on 10/31/2014 6:03:33 PM PDT by ethical
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To: humblegunner
Why not?

Buy her book to find out...!!!

217 posted on 10/31/2014 6:14:39 PM PDT by TomServo
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To: Ha Ha Thats Very Logical

The actual police reports from the Maui Police Department, who act as Deputy Coroners.


218 posted on 10/31/2014 6:39:42 PM PDT by ethical
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To: 4Zoltan

Totally irrelevant. Detective Winfrey is not a hospital, and his “preliminary cause of death” was AFTER the autopsy and was preliminary because it was pendinq the FINAL autopsy report and tox results.


219 posted on 10/31/2014 7:55:00 PM PDT by butterdezillion (Note to self : put this between arrow keys: img src=""/)
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To: Red Steel
2015 is going to be an interesting year...

:-)
220 posted on 10/31/2014 8:36:43 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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