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To: PapaNew; Jan_Sobieski; XenaLee; johniegrad; Steve_Seattle; Mathews
4 He (Joel Osteen) gets more than his share of persecution by the modern-day Pharisees.

12 No...he is a homosexual supporting false teacher. The Pharisees were political and would have no problem with Joel Osteen. Jesus would have driven him out!

17 I don’t get it. So what if Osteen’s not included in the Parker leftist persecution and witchhunt? What point are you trying to make here?

23 Joel, like Jesus, is a friend of sinners, and the modern-day-law-loving Pharisees, like the Pharisees of old, dispense him.

25 He’s also a preacher of righteousness infusing joy onto the Body of Christ. Many believers need joy so badly. After all, the joy of the Lord is our strength.

27 ... Pretty soon someone will post a gif of lots of people walking into a hole with the quote, "700,000,000 people can't be wrong". And then many others will pile on talking about the evils of a "prosperity driven gospel". I'm not sure whar it's all about but they are quite certain it's evil. So, he's condemned, they're saved and it's FR religious free for all as usual.

32 I only have seen Osteen in small doses, but he doesn’t seem like the kind of pastor who would give sermons on homosexuality, abortion, or anything controversial.

37 I like Joel. His sermons make me feel good. I listen to at least two a day on the radio.

1/04/2010 - Youtube - Joel Osteen Prays over Inauguration of Lesbian Mayor of Houston
video run length = 00:02:30 minutes Joel Scott Osteen, American preacher, televangelist, author, and the Pastor of the mega-church Lakewood Church in Houston, TX, delivered the invocation at Annise Parker’s mayoral inauguration.

1/04/2010 – CSPAN - Houston Mayoral Inauguration
video run time = 01:10:59 hours

1/08/2012 – Oprah Winfrey interviewed mega-church televangelist Joel Osteen on her new program, “Oprah’s Next Chapter,” where he delved deeply into his views on homosexuality and sin. “Will a gay person be accepted into heaven, as you see it?,” Oprah asked the famed pastor of Lakewood Church in Houston, TX. “I believe they will,” he responded. ”Sometimes we look at gay being a bigger sin than being proud or not telling the truth. I don’t think God categorizes sins.” Oprah continued, ”Does that mean that you’re saying that you believe that being gay is a sin?” “I believe that homosexuality is shown as a sin in the scripture,” he responded. “Oprah, it’s a hard thing in a sense, because I’m for everybody. I’m not against anybody. I don‘t think anybody’s 2nd class,” Osteen continued, as he explained that the bible’s message on the matter, in his view, is clear. Osteen’s main point in addressing the issue, though, was that homosexuality, should it be considered a sin, isn’t any different from other offenses. In his view, it shouldn’t be raised above the other sins that individuals commit.

On 4/29/2012, Osteen was interviewed by Chris Wallace on “Fox News Sunday”. Responding to Wallace's question of whether or not gay couples should have the same rights as heterosexuals, Osteen said he supported some rights, but not necessarily full equality. "I don't think there is an issue where somebody couldn't go visit a gay loved one in the hospital. I don't think that's right. They love each other," Osteen said. "So, I think there should be some." … "I'm not for gay marriage, but I'm not for discriminating against people," he said.

43 posted on 10/16/2014 11:48:47 PM PDT by MacNaughton (" If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." POTUS#16 ALincoln)
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To: MacNaughton

Great! Your post says everything that needs to be said!


50 posted on 10/17/2014 7:13:27 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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