Posted on 10/15/2014 6:54:46 AM PDT by Bigg Red
~snip~ First the virus gets into your system, Ill elaborate on that later. Then, it hangs out for a few days, even up to 21, growing, multiplying at a rate of millions a day, and guess what, youre infectious. Now at this point it would pretty much require a straight blood to blood interaction so the only real threat here is for IV drug users who share needles. Just like with the flu or hand foot and mouth disease, you can be spreading it to others before you show a symptom*(apparently not many see the *, so please read the elaboration at the bottom). Remember, nurse mind set, protect the community. At first its not bad, little nausea, some sweating, diarrhea, much like a stomach bug. But then the virus really starts to build up in your liver and adrenal glands, after it has saturated your blood cells, the lining of your vessel, your skin, and bones. Hepatocellular necrosis occurs, which is fancy term for your liver starts to decompose.Your liver is what regulates blood clotting. This causes your blood either clot up and turn to jelly in your veins, stay liquid and bleed profusely, or a combo of both. The adrenal glands then do the same, causing your blood pressure to drop. This requires lots of IV fluids to keep your circulating volume up. At the same time inflammatory cytokines are released which causes vascular leakage. Cells dont do a good job of holding things together so it all becomes a bloody goop. Anywhere in your body that blood vessels are shallow, like your nose, ears, gums, throat, GI tract, urethra, vagina, rectum, all start oozing fluids and bleeding because the tissues that normally keep it contained are disintegrating. So now you bleed from every orifice....
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(Excerpt) Read more at dtolar.wordpress.com ...
“Duncan lied to get here.”
Not only that but that COWARD intentionally exposed untold hundreds (thousands?) as he ran away and lied just so he could come to the US for treatment. . .everyone else be damned. . .he’s such an evil coward that he didn’t care about all the other people around him, all he cared about was his cowardly a$$..
That is LESS than the nurses were wearing going into the severe cases in the NICU. The EMPCO (heart lung machine) babies had everyone in Tyvek suits (the ones PAINTERS wear)
Less. At the PPE was only designed to keep the babies from getting sick from something the Nurses brought in.
Go to a local chemical or refrigeration plant. Look at the nice blue suits we have to wear for HAZMAT, mandated by OSHA. Why in the name of God do we have nurses wearing those flimsy yellow smocks with a level 4 virus? Those smocks are worse the useless.
And for the hospital complaining about the costs. Every plant with a PSM plan has had to eat those costs. Such measures worked for the Firestone plantation. If you don’t care about your health care workers, I hope a nurse or doctor calls OSHA.
Turn around is fair play.
Thanks for posting this. I enjoyed her information. What I find especially interesting is how long this virus can survive outside of a host. It is an astonishing long amount of time compared to other viruses, several hours up to several days, depending on the environment.
“It is common to suit up better than that when working with benign irritants (insulation, painting, sanding, etc) but when dealing with a deadly level 4 bio-hazard, you barely wear more than a chicken processor?”
It is amazing. This past summer, we placed our old heating/ac system and the ducts. The guys who did the removal of the old ducts were better dressed haz mat wise than these poor nurses.
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You misunderstand my position on this.
The blame goes to the CDC for having assinine protocols to begin with.
And the ‘timely’ publication of this ‘important article’:
http://annals.org/article.aspx?articleid=1899515
Read that one and weep.
“These investigations affirm the appropriateness of the infection control practices recommended by the CDC. A fluid-impervious gown, gloves, a surgical mask, and a face shield are adequate to protect health care personnel from direct contact with blood or other body fluids during routine care. N95 masks or personal respirators are only necessary during aerosol-generating procedures.
Exceeding these recommendations may paradoxically increase risk. Introducing new and unfamiliar forms of personal protective equipment could lead to self-contamination during removal of such gear. Requiring HazMat suits and respirators will probably decrease the frequency of providerpatient contacts, inhibit providers’ ability to examine patients, and curtail the use of diagnostic tests.”
The hospitals are in a can’t win situation here.
And the leftist nurses unions aren’t asking the really IMPORTANT questions like ‘WHY ARE THE VISA MILLS STILL OPEN TO THOSE COUNTRIES!’.
Nope, they’re blaming the non-single payer system.
Totally expected.
Excellent suggestion for hospital workers to call OSHA.
“Go to a local chemical or refrigeration plant. Look at the nice blue suits we have to wear for HAZMAT, mandated by OSHA. Why in the name of God do we have nurses wearing those flimsy yellow smocks with a level 4 virus? Those smocks are worse the useless.
And for the hospital complaining about the costs. Every plant with a PSM plan has had to eat those costs. Such measures worked for the Firestone plantation. If you dont care about your health care workers, I hope a nurse or doctor calls OSHA.
Turn around is fair play.”
See my comments to Wrench below re what you are discussing:
“To: wrench
It is common to suit up better than that when working with benign irritants (insulation, painting, sanding, etc) but when dealing with a deadly level 4 bio-hazard, you barely wear more than a chicken processor?
It is amazing. This past summer, we placed our old heating/ac system and the ducts. The guys who did the removal of the old ducts were better dressed haz mat wise than these poor nurses.”
Nonsense. Not an insult. A compliment.
Read this yesterday- it’s an excellent piece. Passed it on to people at hospital.
Geeze. I had a conversation yesterday with a nurse at the hospital where I work as a secretary. I conveyed my concerns about Ebola eventually showing up there, and how it seems the CDC doesn’t know what the hell they’re doing. She pretty much blew me off, saying that there are much worse viruses going around right now. Couldn’t believe it. And when I told her I watch Fox News, she gave me the eye-roll. Needless to say, she didn’t leave me with much confidence at all - so if an E patient shows up, that will be my last day on the job.
I totally 100% agree.
My point is that in the non medical field we seem to have more equipment and training for dealing with the HAZMAT than our first line HCW.
I don’t get it. I honestly don’t. I have been HAZMAT trained since the start of my career. Even for realitivly benign things like ammonia, you get a full body suit and a SCBA. For the more interesting things we have protocols set up for onsite don/doff and shower in/out procedures.
Why don’t hospitals have the same requirements that we do?
PFL
Interesting article. Thanks for posting it.
It’s a very relevant question.
I’ve worn hazmat as well. I was better garbed to clean out an old stockroom than these nurses are to take care of bhl4. And the CDC isn’t backing down, they’re doubling down.
And the left is carrying their water by blaming the hospital, having discovered blaming the nurse was a hot potato poll wise.
I am wondering if the relatives of the Liberian man already had some time of immunity to the disease, as none of them have any symptoms and they were not wearing any protective gear while in the apartment with him.
Well, how do we know that Duncan’s family members have no symptoms? We have not seen nor heard from the people who lived in that apartment with him, have we?
Scary.
Yes, we need to pray for all who may be exposed to this virus.
You’re welcome.
You are welcome.
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