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Will Islam become a peaceful, tolerant religion?
Dan Miller's Blog ^ | September 16, 2014 | Dan Miller

Posted on 09/16/2014 11:30:53 AM PDT by DanMiller

The video embedded below presents the views of a Muslim who regrets that the Islamic State, its predecessors and progeny, are Islamic and driven by Islam as it now exists.

ISIS scared

Zuhdi Jasser, a Muslim, supports the efforts of Hirsi Ali and others who call attention to the horrific actions taken by Islamists (also referred to as "Muslim extremists") in the name of and because of Islam. He rejects efforts by Obama and others to excommunicate the Islamic State, et al, from Islam which -- like the IS, et al, -- is neither peaceful nor tolerant. He hopes that Islam will eventually become peaceful and tolerant.

[youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_R2JMR-LKO4]

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Obama, far from being the constitutional and religious scholar He would have us believe Him to be is, at best, woefully ignorant about both the Constitution and Islam. Perhaps more likely and more harmful, He has sufficient understandings of both -- and of His power -- to undermine the Constitution while empowering Islamists. His "foreign policy" appears to be directed toward Islamist empowerment and His domestic policy appears to be directed toward diminishing our freedoms. Both are fed by and thrive upon politically correct multicultural notions. Is it all about the (unquenchable) thirst for power over others achieved, and to be achieved, through their submission, or are there other powerful ideological motivators?

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If Dr. Jasser's views were to be accepted by a very substantial majority of Muslims worldwide, they might provide hope for positive change. However, Islamists are powerful. Dr. Jasser is not. He does not have millions of devout followers, nor does he have the financial and other resources of Islamists; the Islamic State is considered to be the most wealthy terrorist organization the world has seen. No matter what Dr. Jasser may say, and no matter how right he may be, his words will not change the contentions of the Excommunicator in Chief. Nor will they change the views of those who agree with Him.

Will Dr. Jasser change the views of reasonable, peaceful Muslims who already live, and want to continue to live, in harmony with others, including "non-believers" and apostates? Probably not; at best he may not alienate too many of those who consider Islam already to be peaceful.

Will he change the views of "extremist Muslims" (Islamists)? Almost certainly not, at least in the reasonably foreseeable future. Islamism has become too powerful to expect that the words of Dr. Jasser and other like-minded Muslims will cause significant numbers of Islamists to have epiphanies.

Neither will the transparently disingenuous words of such luminaries as Obama and Kerry.

Muslims need to persuade other Muslims that Islam, as it now exists, is evil. Those who are thus persuaded need to persuade others to join with them in changing Islam from evil to good. They need to succeed. Unfortunately, success seems unlikely in the foreseeable future.

Until efforts to change Islam into a peaceful and tolerant religion succeed, civilized nations need stop pretending that Islam is something it is not and to do everything within their power to defeat Islam as it exists. They have not yet begun. They have not even acknowledged the name of the problem. Will they do so in time?


TOPICS: Education; Government; Politics; Religion
KEYWORDS: islam; islamicstate; obama
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1 posted on 09/16/2014 11:30:53 AM PDT by DanMiller
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Is a bear Catholic?
2 posted on 09/16/2014 11:32:03 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The man who damns money obtained it dishonorably; the man who respects it earned it." --Ayn Rand)
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To: DanMiller

Do squirrels roll nuts up hill?


3 posted on 09/16/2014 11:34:04 AM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: DanMiller

Islam has always been evil. It has been based on “conversion” through violent conquest and the establishment of a theocratic state since its very beginnings.

So, no, it can’t “become” peaceful. It’s not in its nature.


4 posted on 09/16/2014 11:34:47 AM PDT by livius
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To: DanMiller

Can a leopard change its spots?


5 posted on 09/16/2014 11:34:52 AM PDT by Hieronymus ( (It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged. --G.K. Chesterton))
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To: DanMiller

as if 21600 years of their history doesnt show/tell us?


6 posted on 09/16/2014 11:36:46 AM PDT by goodnesswins (R.I.P. Doherty, Smith, Stevens, Woods)
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To: DanMiller
Has Al Gore, Pelosi, or Reid ever told the truth on any topic?

Is Obama a Christian?

7 posted on 09/16/2014 11:37:11 AM PDT by PATRIOT1876
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To: DanMiller

NO.


8 posted on 09/16/2014 11:39:42 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools)
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To: goodnesswins

What calendar system do you use?


9 posted on 09/16/2014 11:39:55 AM PDT by Hieronymus ( (It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged. --G.K. Chesterton))
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To: DanMiller

“Will Islam become a peaceful, tolerant religion?”

Not the longest day you live.


10 posted on 09/16/2014 11:40:11 AM PDT by SMARTY ("When you blame others, you give up your power to change." Robert Anthony)
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To: PATRIOT1876

Are the Leafs going to win the Cup?


11 posted on 09/16/2014 11:40:31 AM PDT by Hieronymus ( (It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged. --G.K. Chesterton))
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To: DanMiller

Given what’s in the Qu’ran, probably not.


12 posted on 09/16/2014 11:41:04 AM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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I guess, if people are willingly submit to and subjugate to their complete and absolute authority, then yeah, islam could have been a ‘peaceful and tolerant religion’.

Troubles are (1) moooooslems actively seeking others to convert by force; and (2) ‘there’s no way out’ without your head or limbs still attached.

I am sure FReepers can think of other things to say about the peacefulness of islam.


13 posted on 09/16/2014 11:41:07 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Is a bear Catholic?

Related thread:
Moose hunter accidentally shoots man sitting on toilet

14 posted on 09/16/2014 11:43:01 AM PDT by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: Hieronymus

*Are the Leafs going to win the Cup?*

“Hit don’t rain in Indianapolis in the summertime”


15 posted on 09/16/2014 11:43:43 AM PDT by PATRIOT1876
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The few Muslims who dare attempt a Reformation all lose their heads in short order.

Not bloody likely IMO.


16 posted on 09/16/2014 11:47:35 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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They did have a reformation, it is this:

Bahá’í Faith

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bah%C3%A1%27%C3%AD_Faith

Of course all that became of it was another group for the Muslims to persecute...

Guess what country protects a great number of these people..... Israel...


17 posted on 09/16/2014 11:47:45 AM PDT by GraceG (No, My Initials are not A.B.)
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18 posted on 09/16/2014 11:49:41 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: DanMiller

No. Next question.


19 posted on 09/16/2014 11:53:19 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: DanMiller

islam is not a religion it is a cult


20 posted on 09/16/2014 11:59:41 AM PDT by Revelation 911
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