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How New Yorkers Prep for 'Doomsday': New Yorkers worry about natural disasters, terrorist threats
Newser ^ | August 25, 2014 | Neal Colgrass

Posted on 08/25/2014 9:18:42 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: doorgunner69

I’m wondering where they think they are going to backpack to. People out in the boonies are not going to be very welcoming to a horde of locusts. Its a really poor idea of prepping.


41 posted on 08/26/2014 7:41:37 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

pretty funny thread-

People in New York city:

A. Have no guns
B. doubt if they have a spear or Bow
C. would need to walk over 100 miles
d. NO ONE in outstate newyork/New jersey will welcome them
e. Every other THUG is going to give them a Whupping

On and on- preppers in New York?- just delusional
ranting’s like the dummies on the show- next they will
need to figure out how to kill the Zombies- LOL


42 posted on 08/26/2014 8:18:01 AM PDT by mj1234
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To: mj1234

I agree. The sad truth is that when and I say when not if the grid goes down the people in NYC are simply SOL. Millions will die right there in the city. Those high rises are just death traps. There won’t be any food, water, sanitation, heat etc. After 2-3 the die off will be incredible. Same deal in all the big cities.

If you don’t have a place to bug out to or already on a retreat you will be in a miserable situation.


43 posted on 08/26/2014 8:29:25 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: mj1234

“preppers in New York?- just delusional”

There are times when I have to be in NYC for work, but I have been trying to avoid it lately. I doubt many New Yorkers could last three days without electricity and running water. Many young professionals eat all their meals out and have essentially no provisions.

In some scenarios the best strategy might be to “bug-in-place” for a week or two. By that point almost everyone would be dead, or crazed from the withdrawl of their anti-depressants.


44 posted on 08/26/2014 8:45:05 AM PDT by Junk Silver
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To: ansel12

Where would he go? New Rochelle?


45 posted on 08/26/2014 9:21:23 AM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur: non vehere est inermus)
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To: ansel12

The ones with the kayaks are the smart ones.

Particularly if they have trolling motors and a couple batteries they keep charged. Use the motor and the batteries to sprint away, ( or fight through the current of somewhere like Hell Gate) and when the charges run out toss them overboard to reduce weight.

In a real SHTF scenario water is going to be the ONLY way out except for the first few who are smart and situationally aware enough to leave before the rest of the hordes start moving. People who keep their cars gassed and stocked are idiots.


46 posted on 08/26/2014 9:29:38 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: RoosterRedux

GW Bridge? You mean past it, not over it (which will deposit you in NJ)?


47 posted on 08/26/2014 9:38:01 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: tanknetter
I mean the safest route out of Manhattan is Henry Hudson Dr just over the river (yes, in NJ running NNE along the Hudson). It is very isolated and will not be traveled by thugs because it is hard to get to (one must get down from the high ground above the palisades down to the bank of the river).

Every other route I know of will be blocked by ferals from bad neighborhoods who will pour into nearby good neighborhoods to loot and pillage.

48 posted on 08/26/2014 10:16:23 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: tanknetter
The problem with kayaks is where do you store them until you need them.

That said, here's a nifty idea that might work. When you get to the water, break the bike and trailer down and lash them to the kayak.


49 posted on 08/26/2014 10:24:44 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

A NYC prepper is an oxymoron. The only real NYC preppers are the elites like Bloomterd who no doubt has at least a helicopter and/or jet to take him to one of several retreats.


50 posted on 08/26/2014 10:31:51 AM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est. New US economy: Fascism on top, Socialism on the bottom.)
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To: tanknetter
BTW, there are pedestrian/bike paths on the GW and the northernmost on ends directly into the Palisades Interstate Park on the north side of the Bridge. Upon entering the park, there are trails which lead to the switchback down to the banks of the river and Henry Hudson Dr.

Here's a map (click on the map to enlarge it). The blue trail is the one that gets you down from the heights of the Palisades to Henry Hudson Dr and the trails below.


51 posted on 08/26/2014 10:45:39 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: grumpygresh

When I lived in NYC many years ago, I always had a bugout plan. See my comments above.


52 posted on 08/26/2014 10:46:56 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: Kartographer
...they could just use their EBT card to get all the steak and shrimp they want.

In a real emergency they'll run out of Wagyu beef in the first day. I hope you're not suggesting these poor people be stuck with domestic filet mignon.

My favorite line in World War Z - "by New Year's there was plenty to eat." The little girl narrator was referring to people who were too squeamish to become cannibals and so became food...

53 posted on 08/26/2014 10:54:18 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: RoosterRedux

Yup, sorry, mistook HH Drive for HH Parkway.


54 posted on 08/26/2014 10:56:13 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If they think they are going to jump into their cars and speed out of town, they might get a big surprise. After hurricane Ike hit the coast near Houston the highways out of town were completely blocked by fleeing Houston people. I have friends and relatives who sat in stalled traffic for as long as 8 or 9 hours before turning around and going back home. A friend told me that she thought she heard an order to evacuate the city. It was not necessary, only those close to the coast should have left.


55 posted on 08/26/2014 11:04:49 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Focault's Pendulum

I still despise Snake Pliskin for abandoning Adrienne :-(

I was somewhat amazed to read of her having twins in her early 50s.

She was cast in some roles that made her appear kind of mean therefore I thought she might be a fairly nice person.


56 posted on 08/26/2014 11:06:37 AM PDT by Rockpile
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To: RoosterRedux

10’ or even 12’ kayaks aren’t that hard to store in even a small apartment. I’ve seen people who put mountings up on their walls and use them for decoration. And the amount of gear they can carry in addition to a person is pretty impressive. Two marine batteries for the trolling motor and a couple bugout bags (even a lightweight tent) for a week or two worth of food would definitely be doable. Try to travel at night, hopefully in conjunction with flood tides.

That rig in your pic is pretty complex, as it involves an actual trailer. Simpler solution that I’ve seen is a standalone kayak/canoe trolly/dolly that provides the wheels and then someting called a “Dumb Bar” that allows you to attach the front carry handle to the bike via the seat post.


57 posted on 08/26/2014 11:11:20 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: Ditter

My brother was the NBC co-ordinator for a large institution at the time of Ike. He took back roads northwest to the Piney Woods region to hand his kids off to another one of my brothers and it still took him double the normal travel time. Getting out on the main roads was dreadful.

I think that there should be a program to provide gasoline trucks to sell fuel to evacuating motorists during emergencies and therefore keep their asses moving and reduce the number of vehicles blocking the traffic lanes and roadsides.


58 posted on 08/26/2014 11:15:13 AM PDT by Rockpile
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To: tanknetter

I don’t know nuttin’ ‘bout boats but from what little I have seen of these kayaks they all appear to be brightly colored. Do you think anyone repaints them to be more subdued?


59 posted on 08/26/2014 11:19:44 AM PDT by Rockpile
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To: Rockpile

Not just gasoline trucks, but also positioning wreckers to get cars off the road following the inevitable crashes of angry/scared/panicked drivers trying to fight their way through merges and other bottlenecks.

I’ve seen many crawling-speed wrecks at the point just north of of the DE I-95 Travel Mart (Southbound) where (I can’t remember what other interstate) merges in, by drivers not willing to yield/zipper in bumper to bumper traffic.


60 posted on 08/26/2014 11:22:15 AM PDT by tanknetter
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