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Ferguson and the Urban-Suburban Race Conflict (Hurl 'em if you got 'em)
The Daily Beast ^ | August 18, 2014 | Michael Tomasky

Posted on 08/18/2014 12:33:52 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

In Ferguson and many towns like it, majority African-American communities most grapple with mostly white county governments. How this leads to dysfunction, racial tension, and a skewed justice system.

As we watch Ferguson Police Chief Tom Jackson bumble his way through press conferences, let’s take a couple steps back and think about how this two-thirds African-American town has retained such a nearly complete all-white power structure. It is partly, as Slate noted, a question of voting power, as whites are more entrenched and vote in greater numbers. But there’s a larger story here about race in America that involves the transformation of inner-ring suburbs over the last 30 years, and the response to that transformation, which have combined to create tensions that often rage in the suburban areas that surround our major cities. These tensions are almost wholly about race. Even more specifically, they are often about criminal justice, in ways that we may see play out in St. Louis County when the day arrives that Officer Darren Wilson goes on trial.

This story begins with white flight, which is well known—as blacks moved up to cities in the North from farms in the South at an astonishing rate in the 1950s and ’60s, they moved into inner-city neighborhoods, and the whites moved out. But then, in the 1980s, blacks, along with Hispanics and Asians, started moving out into the ’burbs, too. Affirmative action and public-sector unionization (say what you will about them!) lifted millions of African Americas into the middle class, and they could now afford a car and a garage to put it in.

The good news here: America became a little less segregated. This study by Brown University finds that segregation peaked between 1960 and 1970 and has fallen off, steadily but only gradually, ever since. The “typical white” today lives in a neighborhood that is 75 percent white (that figure was 88 percent 30 years ago). The “typical black” lives in a neighborhood that’s 45 percent black, 35 percent white, 15 percent Hispanic, and 4 percent Asian. But segregation scores in many big cities remain high. On a scale where any score above 60 is considered to indicate deep segregation, Detroit and Milwaukee are tied for worst, at 79.6 percent; then comes New York, Newark, Chicago, Philadelphia, Miami, Cleveland, and, in ninth position, at 70.6 percent, we find St. Louis.

So even as black people pushed their way out into the suburbs, they typically haven’t done so in large enough numbers to gain real political power. This means that while the political power in many cities is in black hands today, whites still tend to run things in the counties within which those cities rest. Thus, one sub-story of the last 20 or so years in America has been a quiet but constant power struggle between municipal and county governments over who has what authority.

Now, St. Louis County and St. Louis the city are a little different from the norm in this regard, since they split into two jurisdictions back in the 1870s, long before anyone was thinking about black political power. In fact, back then it was the city people voting to cut off having to pay for services for the county rubes (the city’s population then was almost exactly what it is today, 318,000; St. Louis County, about 25,000 then, is around 1 million today). Today, I’m sure the city would love to have that tax base.

So St. Louis is different in jurisdictional terms, but on a more emotional level, the same kinds of dramas play out that we see in other American cities that sit within larger counties. These counties have inner-ring and outer-ring suburbs, still further out exurbs, and even a few patches of farmland. Go look at a map of Fulton County, Georgia, which contains Atlanta, and see how large it is. The population of Atlanta is about 443,000. The population of Fulton County as a whole is 977,000, meaning that more than half the people live outside Atlanta proper. The same is true in Wayne County, Michigan, where about 700,000 live in Detroit but 1.1 million outside of it; in Cuyahoga County, Ohio, where 390,000 live in Cleveland and 875,000 outside of it; and dramatically so in Miami-Dade County, where 2.2 million live outside Miami and just 410,000 in it. Not every major American city is like this, but it’s fair to say that most are in similar situations.

This creates a fierce political competition between city and county governments and within county governments. Cities dominated their counties for decades, but no longer. The cold war—it’s hard to call it anything less—between north Fulton County (white) and south Fulton County (black) is legendary. The MARTA rail system, which started running 35 years ago and was from the very earliest planning phases, 10 years before that, designed to run up to north Fulton County and out into Cobb and Gwinnett and other regional counties, is only now just starting to inch its way up to north Fulton. People can make whatever excuses they want, but this two-generation delay has been almost entirely about race.

Now let’s get to the matter at hand in Ferguson: criminal justice. The specific issue is that juries in the United States are drawn from county-wide population pools. This means, as the criminologist William Stuntz has observed, that people from large counties with exurbs and farms are often sitting in judgment of urban kids. Stuntz was a conservative, but an apostate who came to believe that the American criminal justice system was pretty much hopelessly racist. In his last book before his death, The Collapse of the American Justice System, he noted that “counties that include major cities have a much higher percentage of suburban voters than in the past” and observed that this meant that black kids on trial were far less likely to get a jury that had any understanding of what their lives were like.

So let’s flip that in this case. Will a St. Louis County jury be likely to look sympathetically upon Michael Brown? Quite unlike the two-thirds black Ferguson, the county is 70 percent white. I’ll cast no aspersions on either Officer Wilson, innocent until proven otherwise, or the fine people of St. Louis County. I’ll just say that if William Stuntz were still alive, I have a sense of which outcome he’d be predicting.


TOPICS: Government; Local News; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: blackkk; blacks; ferguson; lawenforcement; missouri; racialism; racism; voting
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Now it's our fault that blacks don't bother to vote or don't vote the "right" way? And white juries are inherently racist? Wow.
1 posted on 08/18/2014 12:33:52 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
This man is Laughing in hell right now...


2 posted on 08/18/2014 12:35:42 PM PDT by GraceG (No, My Initials are not A.B.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What’s wrong with being white?

Only blacks can represent blacks?
When whites represent whites, it’s called “racism”.


3 posted on 08/18/2014 12:36:29 PM PDT by Tzimisce
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

My 99.8% white township doesn’t properly represent either black men who live here. /s


4 posted on 08/18/2014 12:36:48 PM PDT by cripplecreek ("Moderates" are lying manipulative bottom feeding scum.)
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To: GraceG

One bad apple on ANY police force is one bad apple too many.
COP CAMS would prevent many or ALL of these sorts of tragedies. (To be effective, these devices MUST be “ON” during the entire shift and any officer whose device fails to capture the event under investigation or attempts to defeat the device should be summarily dismissed.)

IF THE OFFICER IN THE MICHAEL BROWN SHOOTING HAD WORN A COP CAM, ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, THIS INCIDENT WOULD HAVE ALREADY BEEN SETTLED and Ferguson, MO wouldn’t be burning every night and Al Sharpton and the other racist agitators would have to get REAL jobs (if they could find them).

And let’s all remember that even cops and elected officials have families, any one of which could become the victim of the senseless act of some rogue cop who’s having a bad day and wants to pass it on.


5 posted on 08/18/2014 12:37:43 PM PDT by Dick Bachert (Ignorance is NOT BLISS. It is the ROAD TO SERFDOM! We're on a ROAD TRIP!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

How many times have white people rioted after a black thug has beaten us or raped our women?


6 posted on 08/18/2014 12:37:55 PM PDT by caww
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

” So even as black people pushed their way out into the suburbs, they typically haven’t done so in large enough numbers to gain real political power. “

And what is real poltical power? If say a neighborhod is 10% Black and has 10 seats on the city council and one of those seats is taken by a black person isn’t that proortional.... Of course that is using quotas which are by defintion IS racist...


7 posted on 08/18/2014 12:38:52 PM PDT by GraceG (No, My Initials are not A.B.)
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To: cripplecreek

The most pampered race in America rioting.....maybe they should spend some time in Liberia and see what that feels like!


8 posted on 08/18/2014 12:39:19 PM PDT by caww
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To: Dick Bachert

” IF THE OFFICER IN THE MICHAEL BROWN SHOOTING HAD WORN A COP CAM, ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, THIS INCIDENT WOULD HAVE ALREADY BEEN SETTLED and Ferguson, MO wouldn’t be burning every night and Al Sharpton and the other racist agitators would have to get REAL jobs (if they could find them). “

I agree that cop cams are also mandatory to protect piolice as well and are a good thing. More video footage is a good thing.. Just ask the Austin Prosecuter in the Governor Perry case, hehe heheh


9 posted on 08/18/2014 12:40:10 PM PDT by GraceG (No, My Initials are not A.B.)
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To: caww

Since 1965? Uh, not a one that I can think of.


10 posted on 08/18/2014 12:40:40 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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These charts mean only one thing. Po-leece is raciss...

 

/s

11 posted on 08/18/2014 12:42:20 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: GraceG; Dick Bachert

You can’t blame him, his department didn’t issue him anything of the kind, either on his person or in his police car. Non-standard issue equipment is as frowned upon in police work as it is in the armed forces.


12 posted on 08/18/2014 12:42:37 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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We should just turn "their" areas over to them and move to "our" areas and see how that works out for them.

Detroit and Zimbabwe come to mind. Chicago is on it's way.

Oh, and Oakland, let's not forget Oakland. Putting the BEST baseball team on the Field and selling 4,500 tickets a night.

Black People don't even go to Oakland.

13 posted on 08/18/2014 12:43:17 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
This means that while the political power in many cities is in black hands today, whites still tend to run things in the counties

Are blacks asking for control of all government? When do hispanics bring up the same argument as put forth in this article? When do the muslims in Detroit bring up the same argument or the Asians in San Francisco and Los Angeles? The racism and balkanization of the USA being promoted as a result of the death of a petty criminal is simply astounding.

14 posted on 08/18/2014 12:44:09 PM PDT by blueplum
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To: caww

[ How many times have white people rioted after a black thug has beaten us or raped our women? ]

Most of the white folks out there are too “fat and happy” at the monent to care....The rest are too busy working to the support the rest of the people to have enough time to care...


15 posted on 08/18/2014 12:45:17 PM PDT by GraceG (No, My Initials are not A.B.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

I saw a reasonable quote where a lady said “This is our fault. We don’t vote, we don’t have anyone of color actively pursuing careers in law enforcement”.


16 posted on 08/18/2014 12:45:46 PM PDT by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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17 posted on 08/18/2014 12:49:15 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: GraceG

No...we let the courts do what they are there to do.


18 posted on 08/18/2014 12:50:45 PM PDT by caww
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I am just so tired of color. This is running the risk if turning people that are race neutral against them. I know I am less “concerned” about their plight.


19 posted on 08/18/2014 12:53:12 PM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’ve been channel surfing, and MTV and Black Entertrainment all have a lot of music videos of blacks and cop cars. It’s unusual. Makes me really go back and wonder if many of the song lyrics were preparing us for this.


20 posted on 08/18/2014 12:58:57 PM PDT by rovenstinez
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