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To: MaxMax

Seriously?

Ask the seven year old who, when asked what he wanted for his birthday, replied, one day without pain. Ask him why he is stupid enough to want to feel that way. Ask him why he knows what joy is, but somehow refuses to embrace it???

There is a huge misunderstanding regarding the nature of affective disorders. Unless you or a member of your immediate family suffers from clinical depression - you have never met anyone who did, nor did they share their story with you, because they were unable to leave their bed and unable to complete a rational argument.

There is a spectrum of affective disorder, ranging from chronic dysthymia (aka - “the blues”) all the way to clinical depression at the extreme of the other side.

Dysthymia is a pain in the ass, clinical depression is deadly.

Still waiting to hear the miracle cure....


27 posted on 08/15/2014 12:14:39 PM PDT by dadgum (Overjoyed to be the Pariah.)
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To: dadgum
Why not say Type 1 diabetes is a choice? Or leukemia is a choice? A person in the throes of SEVERE clinical depression, bipolar, schizophrenia is not necessarily able to truly make a rational choice. People can avoid jail if they commit murder while mentally ill. They will be sent for treatment, but the law recognizes that culpability can be mitigated if someone is not in his right mind. Even the Catholic Church has softened toward allowing Christian burial to suicides, because a mortal sin requires full consent of the will. A brain not functioning properly may not be able to consent, just like you're not supposed to rape a drunk person because they cannot give consent. For anyone who has overcome clinical depression, bravo for you. Some cannot, and they may have tried far harder than you. It's not one size fits all.

As far as being selfish, does it occur to anyone that suicide may be the only "selfish" thing they have ever done? That they carried the family's burdens without support or gratitude? Maybe some survivors should feel damn guilty.

34 posted on 08/15/2014 12:54:13 PM PDT by informavoracious (Open your eyes, people!)
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To: dadgum
Because playing the Cheeeldren card wins every argument?
You are absolutely 100% wrong on your assessment. IMO.
And playing your Liberal dogma crap may fly for your echo
Chamber but not in my eyes wide open.

You talk like Children are adults and can make those choices.
This is where you are wrong and once a Child thinks that they're
going to get attention by acting out they almost always will
act out.

Are there legitimate cases? Maybe, but like the Homosexual issues
being pushed into our faces because "Everybody must know who's gay"
this one is no different.


There is a choice whether you want to admit it or not. The choice
with Cheeeedren are the parents and what they choose to tell their brats.
If you tell a kid anything they'll believe anything.

37 posted on 08/15/2014 1:08:45 PM PDT by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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