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Robin Williams didn’t die from a disease, he died from his choice
http://themattwalshblog.com ^ | August 12, 2014 | Matt Walsh

Posted on 08/12/2014 1:28:29 PM PDT by NKP_Vet

I’m not normally one to write a blog post about a dead celebrity, but then I suppose there is no such thing.

There are only living celebrities, not dead ones. In death, wealth and prestige decay and we are brought into a new reality, the only reality there is or ever was — one which, for much better or much worse, doesn’t care at all about our popularity or our money.

The death of Robin Williams is significant not because he was famous, but because he was human, and not just because he left this world, but particularly because he apparently chose to leave it.

Suicide.

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TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: depression; mentalillness; robinwilliams; suicide
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To: NKP_Vet

It’s probable he didn’t have a choice. Mental disease is truly “demons”, “little voices”, a loss of grip. Mental disease doesn’t simply allow for a person to say, “I’ll live the life the Lord meant me to live.” People with eating disorders don’t “choose” to waste away from starvation. They don’t “choose” to purge every time they eat.


21 posted on 08/12/2014 1:40:01 PM PDT by albie
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To: MNDude

Since I didn’t listen to him or care for any of his movies or filthy stand-up “comedy” routines, I didn’t realize he was such an anti-Catholic bigot. Just another vile leftist trying to be funny.


22 posted on 08/12/2014 1:41:23 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: rdcbn

Being a liberal didn’t help.

They already have a pretty dim view of the world without piling clinical depression on top of it.


23 posted on 08/12/2014 1:42:06 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: NKP_Vet

I, personally, have never been clinically depressed. But I have been around people who were. It is a horrible disease. They just sit around doing and saying nothing. They are profoundly sad and in a very dark place. I have no idea what that feels like and I’m not going to say that someone in that state has the mental capacity to make a rational choice. Perhaps they are just like someone with a delusional disorder who thinks he can fly and jumps off a building. Perhaps the depressed person committing suicide is making a “choice” just like the delusional person.

So I disagree with what Walsh says here. Suicide is not a rational choice for a lot of people.


24 posted on 08/12/2014 1:42:06 PM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: Zuben Elgenubi

Lots of folks need help early on to regulate their destructive behaviors at the root. Like heat stroke, the longer you wait, the more you endure the harder it’ll get to deal with each time.


25 posted on 08/12/2014 1:42:28 PM PDT by Bogey78O (We had a good run. Coulda been great still.)
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To: NKP_Vet

It was probably a suicide but you never know. I use to know a retired police chief, he is now deceased, who worked over 50 years as a cop.

He once told me that some suicides are either homicides or accidents but they just don’t know for sure.


26 posted on 08/12/2014 1:42:43 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: NKP_Vet

It is said R Williams has died, I’ll have to say that Robin Williams was one of my favorite actors because I loved his character in “Good Morning Vietnam” in “Mrs. DoubtFire” in “RV” and so on.

But I really don’t think I or barely anyone else can say they are grieving the real Robin Williams that has just died. The Robin Williams we all think of is probably about as real as the Genie from Alladin.
It seems only those close to the man really knew him.


27 posted on 08/12/2014 1:44:16 PM PDT by MNDude
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To: NKP_Vet; All
Mental illness is real.
Sure, some abuse the system and claim mental illness. I will leave it to God to decide who among is responsible for their choices and who might not be.
I am disappointed at the very judgmental and self-righteous tone some are taking here.
I do believe that artists and comedians often have demons and dark thoughts. I believe that Hemmingway once said, “If you don't know pain you don't know art” or something to that effect. (Yes he committed suicide as well)
Mental illness is real.
Those of you who claim otherwise are REALLY no better than the witch doctors in Africa who blame Ebola on “evil spirits”.
Do not claim that the One True God agrees with you in all things.
God has a sense of humor.
And He is known to get angry at the self righteous, as well.

Here is hoping that God laughs at you, rather than something worse happening to you.

28 posted on 08/12/2014 1:44:19 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: NKP_Vet
Jesus Christ is the cure for any mental disorder,whether it be homosexuality or depression. Get right with the Lord and live the life He wants you to live. Amen.

What about Christians who commit suicide? Guess they're burning in Hell, right?

29 posted on 08/12/2014 1:45:25 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: NKP_Vet

....”Suicide.....The final refusal to see the worth in anything, or the beauty, or the reason, or the point, or the hope. ....The willingness (choice) to saddle your family with the pain and misery and anger that will now plague them for the rest of their lives..... but it is a choice, and we have to remember that”......

In this case, and most, the time involved to plan and carry out the means of evidences ‘more than one choice’ was made to bring it to it’s final climax.

If alcohol or drugs are involved...then choices were made to consume them....the blame isn’t anything but the persons who opts for this end. Reasons are insignificant...the end is always the same...dead.


30 posted on 08/12/2014 1:45:36 PM PDT by caww
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To: reefdiver

“Some people just get sick of living, I don’t understand it”

Not the ones with God in their life. I used to drink like a fish and didn’t care about anyone but myself and how I could make myself happy. Then I found the Lord and started living for others and found the reason for my existence. It’s pretty simple. Love of God overcomes any depression.


31 posted on 08/12/2014 1:46:05 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: NKP_Vet
Depression is a physical illness that can be observed and measured.

If I broke my leg, I would pray and I would also see a doctor.

If I were so depressed I started seriously thinking about injuring myself, I would do the exact same thing.

32 posted on 08/12/2014 1:47:34 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: jmacusa

You’re too kind, by far.


33 posted on 08/12/2014 1:47:43 PM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: Kansas58

Robin Williams killed himself because he was unable to make Kierkegaard’’s giant leap of faith and contemplate anything outside of himself. That’s enough to leave a person clinically depressed.


34 posted on 08/12/2014 1:47:45 PM PDT by Eva
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To: Zuben Elgenubi
As a recovering alcoholic(24 years sober) AA states unequivocally that there are those who are ''constitutionally incapable of living a life that demands rigorous honesty''. As our program states ''they are not at fault, they seem to have been born that way'' "Most do however recover if they have the capacity to be honest''. Apparently Robin Williams was either unable or unwilling to do so.
35 posted on 08/12/2014 1:48:39 PM PDT by jmacusa (Liberalism defined: When mom and dad go away for the weekend and the kids are in charge.)
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To: NKP_Vet

Uuuuh no. I’ve got a lot of issues with suicides, but if he was diagnosed with depression that’s a disease. The fact that he got to 63 that way is a lot of triumph. I’ve got a friend that suffers from massive depression, I know he’ll die by his own hand, it’s inevitable. Everyday he comes up with reasons not to, eventually he’ll fail. And Jesus doesn’t cure that, it’s a brain chemistry problem.


36 posted on 08/12/2014 1:49:51 PM PDT by discostu (Villains always blink their eyes.)
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To: Eva

Depression, in the clinical, is a physical illness. Kierkegaard was a writer, not a doctor.


37 posted on 08/12/2014 1:50:08 PM PDT by jmacusa (Liberalism defined: When mom and dad go away for the weekend and the kids are in charge.)
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To: jmacusa

Depression is treatable to those who want treatment.


38 posted on 08/12/2014 1:51:27 PM PDT by caww
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To: jmacusa

Depression is treatable to those who want treatment.


39 posted on 08/12/2014 1:51:27 PM PDT by caww
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To: Kansas58

The real sadness for me in Williams’ death is that it caught me harkening back to where I was at various times in his career, all the way back to Mork.

I see myself in my college digs, watching Mork and Mindy faithfully.

I see a teacher friend of mine being screamed at that “Good Morning, Vietnam” would not be shown in Sr. Gov’t class.

I see myself watching “Aladdin” in a crowded theater, on a date.

“What Dreams May Come,” while beautiful, was a crushingly sad one to see.

I do feel really bad for his relatives. But my main focus, I discovered today, was self-referential, as his was a career that has woven through mine.

I hope he is in a better place, but based on faith, The Word says otherwise.


40 posted on 08/12/2014 1:51:30 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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