Posted on 08/01/2014 5:41:40 PM PDT by Thorliveshere
I have a co-worker I've known for many years (10), and all this time, from how spoke out against abortion, homosexuality & gay marriage, common sense, drugs, and so many other progressive ideals, that I assumed she was a Republican, until today.
We got onto the topic of class warfare and poverty. Well.. I was stunned to find that she supported the Democrats wholly on this, that was the only reason she did, that the fact they supported everything else she stood against, didn't matter. Republicans, Conservatives, and especially the Tea Party were liars and were rich and hated the poor, and they should completely support welfare programs, and they weren't "paying their fair share."
To say the least, I lit into her and was aghast at her stance. I guess I could have been a little more "velvet glove" about it, but it just got me angry, as I've seen this in other Catholics who support the welfare system (they must do EVERYTHING they can to fight the war on poverty), and America just wasn't throwing enough money down the rat hole.
Just what percentage of Catholics are like this? This is aggravating, when they SHOULD be the more conservative among us. I know there are lot of good Catholics here, but what have you guys encountered?
If the immigrants who are ignorant, immoral and trapped in poverty (because of what they believe and how they live) are catholic, case closed. They must be brought in, accepted and the wealth of those who disagree redistributed to them.
b/c socialists have an inner party and an outer party and the rich folks are in the inner party. under true communism when it’s finally reached all would be equal and there’d be no more need for the inner party controllers, but the falsity of socialism is that true communism can never be achieved and the inner party leaders will always be around.
Only twice have they voted for a republican candidate...1972 and 1984.
So you could say we have Roman Catholicism to blame in part for our current political woes.
I can see that.
What’s totally idiotic, is that she honestly believes they can change the Democratic party from within. And I told her “good luck with that, it’s worked out well for you so far.”
I’m poor and I’m content but I would be a lot happier if things were cheaper for everybody including the rich.
And not believe the bible?
Roman Catholicism encourages dependence so naturally they vote for politicians who promise to take care of their problems.From the Pope on down the message has been one of do what you are told.As a child it was always the negatives, the threat of burning in hell etc, not “live in this way because God made these Commandments to guard you from bad things”.And too easily confessing your sins to another human who gives forgiveness in the name of God allows many to think they can repeat this in an endless cycle.I don’t think the current Church teaching or much of the past were what Jesus intended.
For that matter Jesus did not say He was sent by Himself but by the Father.
She reads the bible regularly. Of course, she spouted off same scripture which liberals use to rationalize their statist goals.
“What’s totally idiotic, is that she honestly believes they can change the Democratic party from within. And I told her “good luck with that, it’s worked out well for you so far.”
The idea that cultural conservatives like pro-life Catholics, can change the Democrat Party from within made a bit of sense in the 1970’s and 1960’s when the Roe vs Wade Supreme Court ruling opened the spigots to abortion on demand. By the end of the Reagan administration it ought to have become clear to these people that such a concept was a pipedream.
The Democrat party literally made a pact with the devil at some time in the 1960’s and drifted rapidly into a counter-cultural, anti-Christian party, taken over by secularists, atheists, socialists and communists. For people who are apolitical, they are ‘clinging to their Democratic heritage’ at the expense of their Christian roots. Because they are lazy politically, they really are unaware of their culpability in the mess that our country is in.
Correction - I meant to write the Democrat party during the 1970’s and 1980’s (not 1960’s), continued drifting to more and more socialism and bigger government.
By the way, I have never heard blacks called fiscal conservatives, where did that come from?
the ones I know are. They are trying to live without debt, speak of adult welfare takers with disrepect and have investments for retirement. Too bad they are low info voters who aren’t skeptical of the media and Dem politicians
So many regardless of denomination have bought into the Democrat and the false “common man” mantra. They can’t be convinced otherwise. Their little “minds” are made up.
i agree. but cheaper products isn’t govt forcing you to pay for its endless array of pet social programs.
Priests are usually liberal because they associate Republicans as the “cause” of their low compensation.
I’m thinking cheaper in the sense of less regulation and taxation which makes us all free.
I’m staying nominally “Republican” but I am skipping the TX U.S. Senate and land commissioner races on November 4.
My giant Irish Catholic extended family are all hopeless Libs. Sux. There’s no changing them. Just like there’s no changing us. I can’t even talk politics with my own brother. He told me under no circumstances would he ever vote for a Republican. Ever. I said the same about any a Democrat. We just leave it at that so we can drink beer in peace.
Such a shame. Such a waste.
Anyway, she’ll retire soon, so I won’t have to deal with the tension.
Thanks for all the insight, everybody! I will NOT be so naive again.
You support your claim that blacks are known as economic conservatives, because of the blacks that you “know”.
Blacks are not fiscal conservatives, they switched to the democrats when FDR told them about fiscal liberalism and that he was going to create it, and they have never looked back.
Fiscal/Social conservatives are not voting 95% democrat.
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