Posted on 07/30/2014 2:37:40 AM PDT by LeoWindhorse
I strongly favor Impeachment - the worst President in U.S. history! I am somewhat inclined to consider impeachment if the scandals continue I am absolutely OPPOSED to any Impeachment of the President ! I am moderately opposed to the idea of Impeachment
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Crappy poll! I’m conflicted re the first vs the last option!
I have a better idea - legislation to limit executive power and term limits for senators and representatives.
Executive orders should be ruled unconstitutional. That would be a fitting legacy for this outlaw president.
I strongly favor the gallows.
Please read Ben Shapiro’s article in today’s Townhall. He points out that Obama wants us to impeach him. Obama knows that this will energize the base for the fall election. The house can impeach him, but it takes two-thirds of the senate to convict him. Two-thirds of the senate will never vote to convict him. It’s not going to happen. If we impeach him, it will help the Democrats in the fall and in general. Is that what we want?
Having said that, if the country is unable to muster enough support to complete the process, then it seems that starting down the road would only have the effect of creating a martyr (see the aborted impeachment process of William Jefferson Blythe Clinton as an example).
Right now, a snowball would have a better chance of surviving for a week exposed to the sun in the bottom of Death Valley during the middle of July than 67 of our current Senators voting to convict Barrack Hussein Obama Junior.
Is there even a remote possibility of having 67 votes to convict him in the Senate even after November? I would hope the elections went that well, but, realistically, I doubt it.
Obama is already trying to create a martyr image for himself right now. Why would any conservative (including, bless her little heart, Sarah Palin) want to help him do so?
If conservatives wish to destroy Obama, we'd do far better by starting a popular media campaign to educate low information voters. Buy media time. Educate them using short sound bytes. It won't be easy. It certainly won't be fast. But 2-1/2 years of that would teach some.
Call it the "Thanks Obama" media campaign. Imagine a batch of advertisements being aired throughout the day (with the appropriate video b-roll underneath):
And so on.
It wouldn't change the minds of netroots cultists, but it just might change some low information minds who have been bombarded with leftist propaganda.
While I appreciate your sentiments, impeachment is the right thing to do.
Take a serious look at the ramifications of impeaching him in January, after the new Congress is sworn in, not before.
If we wait, and pick up four to six Senate seats, a few squishy Democrats up for election in 2016 might consider joining in removing him for their own good.
Remember, a successful impeachment gives us a President Biden. Be careful what you wish for.
That aside, Elmer Fudd has put himself in a win-win situation. If he is impeached for his lawlessness, he becomes a martyr and the Whigs likely lose both Houses of Congress. If he is NOT impeached, he ramps up the lawlessness.
I don't argue that he deserves impeachment. Hell, he deserves a criminal trial and a noose. However:
Is it worth creating a living martyr?
If you don't convict the b@$+@rd, you've done just that.
In my book, we would save money by just buying campaign ads for every Democratic candidate this fall.
Until we are sure that we'd have 67 votes to convict, it's just plain silly do give them the hammer they'll try to smash us with.
What will the next delaying Excuse be?
Obama will VETO his impeachment?
Wait for my cat to get older?
Wait for hell to freeze over??
POSOTUS and CONgre$$ (current and former) should be tried for TREASON.
When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
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I agree.
But the fact of the matter is that there are 45 Republican senators. Out of that number, can you confidently say that John McLame, Susan Collins, Lindsey Grahamesty, and Lamar Alexander would vote to convict the b@$+@rd?
So that means 41 votes we can be confident of.
How many Dems could be spun off to vote to convict? Any of them? (Maybe 2...and that's a big, big maybe)
It takes 67 votes to convict him in the Senate.
Seriously, what good does Impeachment in the House do if he's not convicted in the Senate? What good did it do with Klinton?
Look after November: there are 45 Republicans now (41 who we can presume would vote to convict). Do you seriously think that we can pick up an additional 26 seats without losing a single one out of these 41?
People need to get it through their heads: the Dems woudln't vote to convict Øbama if he was caught in the act of planting a bomb for Al Qaeda (they'd say the accusation was racist and he was trying to diffuse the bomb); hell, they wouldn't vote to convict Øbama if he was caught in the act of buggering a 6 year old boy (they'd say the 6 year old seduced him). If there aren't 67 solid GOP votes to convict, he won't be convicted. Period.
And if we don't have those 67 votes, starting down the road will turn him into a martyr...one that will be with us in perpetuity...even beyond the 2016 election.
Good point. If the Congress had any stones, they should instead uniformly refer to Obama as "Dictator Obama" or just "Dear Leader". Apply shame. The MSM will then be forced to defend "Dear Leader". Belittle him thru humiliation. Effectively make him say "I am not a dictator" (which of course implies he is a dictator).
Impeachment should be broadcast live as it happens. Judge Jeannine should be the prosecutor. She should call all the witnesses and documents she likes.
All votes of the Senate and House to be made public so we know who the idiots are that can’t see the obvious.
Let’s rid our government of this boil on our butts.
Don’t forget “CONVICTION IN THE SENATE”......
......with Nixon, several pubbies told him he had to go. This was done in a face to face meeting in the Oval Office. Shortly thereafter Nixon resigned.
This is THE ONLY way removing this bastard prior to January 2017 can happen. NAMELY, until things get SO BAD that a handful of Dims will look him in the eye and tell him to “GET!!!”........it just ain’t gonna happen.
So, the country’s fate is in the hands of those Democratic Senators who would be most likely, if any, to tell Obama to “GET!!!”
Bottom Line: “IMPEACHMENT” didn’t remove Nixon. Bi Partisan determination DID!
I love Sarah Palin! I was testing a boat on a lake in WASILLA three weeks ago! But, “IMPEACHMENT” perse is a fools errand unless and until a few democratic senators will cross the line like the republicans did to Nixon.
Now, would the “IMPEACHMENT” process help generate and muster support from “a few good dims”.......... I don’t know. Right now, I doubt it.
” If the Congress had any stones, they should instead uniformly refer to Obama as “Dictator Obama” or just “Dear Leader”. Apply shame. The MSM will then be forced to defend “Dear Leader”. Belittle him thru humiliation. Effectively make him say “I am not a dictator” (which of course implies he is a dictator).”
Good point.
If we can get public opinion to move from 35 pct in favor of impeachment to 65 pct, then there might be a possibility of getting a few Dem votes for it after this midterm.
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