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Hamas is Getting Trounced
Reaganite Republican ^ | 25 July 2014 | Reaganite Republican

Posted on 07/25/2014 10:38:04 AM PDT by Reaganite Republican


Reports out of Gaza have the IDF finding a surprising level of sophistication and breadth of scale in the Hamas tunnel network... besides getting them under the border for rocket launches against Israeli territory, the system connected the mosques, schools, and such that the terror-government uses to shuttle around weapons, terrorists, and supplies...

Alas, the Israeli Defense Force is proving a bit too much for these Jihadi boneheads to deal with on the battlefield: Hamas morale is reportedly already in the toilet, and recent raids find no terrorist/fighters left attempting to hold the position... they leave their weapons behind now, like a militia in utter collapse.

Not only is the population left wondering why the Hamas they elected to run the Gaza Strip  brought all this death and destruction upon them for no gain whatsoever... it now seems the Hamas forces -100,000 strong when this all began- are turning-tail and running as the long, long overdue Israeli ground offensive takes them out piecemeal..

It always seemed plenty obvious to me, that if the IDF ever really let loose on them -and forgot what the uninformed of the world had to say- thus invaded the Gaza Strip, Hamas could be destroyed completely in a fairly brief amount of time be- so here we are.

And this could be the best thing that ever happened to that dusty, overcrowded dump...




TOPICS: Military/Veterans; Politics
KEYWORDS: hamas; idf; israel; morale
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To: yarddog

They did not fight all out in Lebanon last time, under Labor gov’t

And Israel has quietly QUADRUPLED her air striking power over the last year or two, precisely for this task...

http://reaganiterepublicanresistance.blogspot.com/2014/06/israeli-air-force-quadruples-firepower.html

As for the Lebanese gov’t -dominated by Hezbollah still, I believe- the IDF could destroy the country’s military capacity in just four hours, if necessary:

http://reaganiterepublicanresistance.blogspot.com/2010/08/israeli-air-force-capable-and-prepared.html


21 posted on 07/25/2014 11:28:11 AM PDT by Reaganite Republican
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To: Reaganite Republican

I have not heard what came out of Thursday’s cabinet meeting in Israel. They are at a decision point - limit the operation to disabling cross-border tunnels, or extend it to strike at Hamas HQ under Gaza City, and go after collapsing their rule.

This may be the best set of circumstances they will ever get to take out Hamas.

No grand announcement, no warning - just hit them on all fronts at once, and pretend that you are still just twiddling around the edges.

Most of those guys are just in it for a paycheck - they will flip when they see the winds shift. Kill the leaders (a few hundred), seize their files and destroy their facilities. Outlaw Hamas and keep a task force hunting remaining leaders while an interim government stands up.

Dispossess Hamas leaders and their families of their ill-gotten properties and businesses in a blanket confiscation, and award them as compensation to those who were dispossessed by Hamas.

The more killed during wartime operations, the easier the transition will be afterward.


22 posted on 07/25/2014 11:28:25 AM PDT by BeauBo
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To: BeauBo

Agreed 100% on all points

The time is definitely right now, just feels right... and they’re already there, with the Islamists on the run


23 posted on 07/25/2014 11:32:08 AM PDT by Reaganite Republican
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To: Reaganite Republican

One word in response; YAY!!


24 posted on 07/25/2014 11:33:40 AM PDT by lee martell
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To: BeauBo

BTW, I like your point about the leadership’s ill gotten gains

I read where there is 1200 millionaires in the Hamas ranks who got that way by skimming aid, arms, etc, + bribes and whatever they get from smuggling, I read once $20M a month


25 posted on 07/25/2014 11:33:57 AM PDT by Reaganite Republican
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To: yarddog
I also remember that Hezbollah was a bit harder to deal with than I expected. The terrorists seemed to have some success against Israeli tanks. Maybe a lot of lessons were learned then and the future will be different.

Indeed many lessons were learned from fighting Hezbollah in Lebanon. And the Israelis have since fielded several key technological innovations.

One of these innovations is Rafael's "Trophy" active defense system for armored vehicles, which detects and destroys incoming missiles several feet from their Trophy-equipped targets. This is Star Wars stuff that provides a dome of protection for IDF tanks that has the enemy baffled as their well-aimed shots are now disintegrating before they can strike the IDF Merkava tanks.

26 posted on 07/25/2014 11:35:29 AM PDT by Always A Marine
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To: Reaganite Republican

And how many of my taxpayer dollars went into building these tunnels and supplying weapons of destruction? Don’t imagine for a moment that I would prefer those weapons and tunnels would have been used for the Hamas-intended purpose, but I would’ve loved the IDF finding all the bookkeeping records that might fully document and prove how Obama’s administration has clandestinely given our money to our terrorist enemies.

I relish the thought of a treason trial reaching its inexorable conclusion.

Round up the all the men and women that have accepted Hamas money to fight and see them all punished with 20-year minimum sentences, or let them work them down to 15-year sentences by spending the first ten years laboring for the benefit of Israel. Guilty officers should get even greater sentences.

HF


27 posted on 07/25/2014 11:39:12 AM PDT by holden
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To: Always A Marine

Anti armor weapons are interesting although I really don’t know much about them.

I remember maybe 20-30 years ago, they had a Russian Tank which had been destroyed by Israel on view at Eglin AFB.

There was a hole in the tank’s armor which came from a small shell which struck it at a very flat angle. That bullet had gone through maybe a foot of armor and looked exactly like a pellet fired through a bar of soap. It absolutely went through that armor like it was just soft soap.


28 posted on 07/25/2014 11:43:29 AM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: Reaganite Republican

Wipe them out....All of them.


29 posted on 07/25/2014 11:44:04 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Reaganite Republican

TALLY HO!


30 posted on 07/25/2014 11:44:18 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (This is known as "bad luck". - Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: BeauBo

« Breaking News »
Israeli security cabinet rejects Kerry’s ceasefire proposal
DEBKAfile July 25, 2014, 8:42 PM (IDT)

The Israeli security cabinet decided Friday to turn down US Secretary of State John Kerry’s proposal of a one-week “humanitarian” ceasefire in Gaza hostilities, in the wake of its rejection by Hamas. The decision was reached at a special cabinet session.


31 posted on 07/25/2014 11:52:19 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: Always A Marine

uhhh...that would be a good thing because those kids will grow up to hate the Jooz...time to take out the trash...wholesale!


32 posted on 07/25/2014 11:52:46 AM PDT by gr8eman (Bill Carson...meet Arch Stanton!)
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To: yarddog

I forget what they call them...but there is a round within a round, and the outer round explodes and fires an armor piercing round into the armor. Works pretty well.


33 posted on 07/25/2014 11:54:24 AM PDT by gr8eman (Bill Carson...meet Arch Stanton!)
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To: holden

no...when you exterminate rats, you don’t put them in cages!


34 posted on 07/25/2014 11:55:25 AM PDT by gr8eman (Bill Carson...meet Arch Stanton!)
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To: holden

And how many of my taxpayer dollars went into building these tunnels...I believe I read on here this morning someone authorized a cement plant in the area 60 million dollars to rehabilitate Gaza (I may be wrong). None of it went to rehabilitation, it was stolen and used for the tunnels.


35 posted on 07/25/2014 12:16:28 PM PDT by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: Reaganite Republican
The population is paying dearly for "the Hamas they elected".
36 posted on 07/25/2014 12:22:36 PM PDT by windsorknot
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To: gr8eman

I think you may be referring to an explosively formed projectile?


37 posted on 07/25/2014 12:33:09 PM PDT by lacrew
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To: Reaganite Republican

Set up a claims system, so that the whole Gaza population can put in for a piece of Hamas’ carcass.

Set them all to plundering the running remanents of Hamas...

Align rewards and punishments with the desired outcomes.

Put a digestive process in place.


38 posted on 07/25/2014 12:55:09 PM PDT by BeauBo
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To: Reaganite Republican
I hope that Israel does not stop until every last member of the Hamas terrorist gang is eliminated.

Israel should ignore leftist world opinion and not stop until every tunnel is destroyed...

39 posted on 07/25/2014 1:20:27 PM PDT by sand88 (We can never legislate our way back to Liberty)
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To: gr8eman

For 15 years or more, the IDF possesses a sonic alarm system which totally debilitates those at whom it is directed. Left on, the alarm can permanently damage one’s nervous system. Seems to be an appropriate time to try it out at the mouth of every tunnel and see what happens.


40 posted on 07/25/2014 1:38:55 PM PDT by masadaman
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