And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward. ― Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
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2 posted on
07/15/2014 4:05:17 PM PDT by
Kartographer
("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
To: Kartographer
There are thousands obeying Unlawful Orders
3 posted on
07/15/2014 4:05:52 PM PDT by
molson209
(Blank)
To: Kartographer
The fedgov has become our worst enemy.
4 posted on
07/15/2014 4:06:42 PM PDT by
skeeter
To: Jim Robinson
6 posted on
07/15/2014 4:10:22 PM PDT by
CedarDave
To: Kartographer
“a highly credible insider”
Riiight
Get back to us when a real source shows up. This conspiracy theory nonsense is only designed to keep us from actually facts. It keeps us chasing our tails and it works very well.
To: Kartographer
How is this not Obama’s War against the American people?
When will his real record and identities be opened?
To: Kartographer
I am not buying this. Federal agents are not recognized as peace officers by the State of California. The California Penal Code requires the Unlawful Assembly Dispersal Order be given by a recognized peace officer. They would have to depend on the local agencies to do this for them. The only way I could see the Feds being in charge of this, would involve the protesters occupying Federal land.
12 posted on
07/15/2014 4:22:17 PM PDT by
Yogafist
To: Kartographer
I can get more credible information from the illegal next door than from the SHTF website.
13 posted on
07/15/2014 4:24:40 PM PDT by
steve86
( Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
To: Kartographer
The ones who rebelled live in Murietta. That's the key.
The mistake the Butchers of Beijing made with Tank Man in Tienanmen Square was using soldiers from the area. They came back later with thugs from far away and cleaned house.
Ubama will do the same thing. Watch for local law enforcement agencies to be disbanded and replaced with federal LEOs.
We are going to get a national police force, AKA Gestapo, AKA SS. Doesn't matter if it's illegal. We no longer live under the rule of law.
14 posted on
07/15/2014 4:29:50 PM PDT by
E. Pluribus Unum
("The man who damns money obtained it dishonorably; the man who respects it earned it." --Ayn Rand)
To: Kartographer
16 posted on
07/15/2014 4:53:53 PM PDT by
Sergio
(An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
To: Kartographer
19 posted on
07/15/2014 5:01:57 PM PDT by
kvanbrunt2
(civil law: commanding what is right and prohibiting what is wrong Blackstone Commentaries I p44)
To: Abathar; Abcdefg; Abram; Abundy; albertp; Alexander Rubin; Allosaurs_r_us; amchugh; ...
...The Department of Homeland Security on orders from the White House was preparing to disperse the protesters with physical force if necessary...
Most of the Border Patrol agents here at this facility are residents of Murrieta ... the agents declared that they would not obey any unlawful orders which violate the Constitutional rights of peaceful protestors.
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21 posted on
07/15/2014 5:04:21 PM PDT by
bamahead
(Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
To: Kartographer
Bundy Ranch changed everything.
22 posted on
07/15/2014 5:05:11 PM PDT by
demshateGod
(The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
To: Kartographer
Bundy Ranch changed everything.
23 posted on
07/15/2014 5:05:11 PM PDT by
demshateGod
(The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
To: Kartographer; Al
"According to the whistleblower, who has thus far remained anonymous for fear of reprisal, the Department of Homeland Security on orders from the White House was preparing to disperse the protesters with physical force if necessary. Federal riot police were being mobilized, complete with riot gear, body armor and armored personnel carriers." This is déjà vu concerning rumors years ago of corrupt fed government arguably trying to unconstitutionally expand its powers by getting citizens to fight back with respect to 4th Amendment concerns about TSA requiring everybody to get x-rayed before being permitted to board aircraft.
To: All
I have to be honest, I don’t believe either story. I don’t believe the feds will use force, it would be a disaster of epic proportions, and I don’t believe local police would cross the feds.
To: Kartographer
hussen obamar needs to get a clue and realize that a lot of people in uniform don’t have his back (as goofyazz likes to say). These folks are Americans. They put Americans before obama’s anti-American agenda.
37 posted on
07/15/2014 6:06:42 PM PDT by
boycott
To: Kartographer
Oathkeepers.org Oath Keepers - Guardians of the Republic.
38 posted on
07/15/2014 6:09:32 PM PDT by
immadashell
(The inmates are running the asylum.)
To: John Robinson
Our contact inside the U.S. Border Patrol told us that we do not even realize how impactful the protest was
.it was a shot heard around the world
.all the way back to Guatemala; Mexico, and not just the U.S. Government
.the influx of immigrants coming over the border has decreased from 1500 per day down to 800 per day
cut almost in half as a direct result of what weve done. The front line U.S. Border Patrol agents are essentially refusing to perform any unconstitutional act upon the protesters, and they let their intentions be known to their superiors. As a result, the Department of Homeland Security could not proceed with delivery of another busload of illegal immigrants to Murrieta....
pinh
39 posted on
07/15/2014 6:09:47 PM PDT by
GOPJ
(A ship once out of port is hard to capture:know this now before it is too late. - Solon)
To: Kartographer
Border Patrol Oathkeepers honor the Oath they took to defend the Constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic!
Whether you took the Oath or not, if you would like to become part of a growing and increasingly influential patriotic movement, go to http://www.oathkeepers.org and find out how you can help.
Now is the time for all good men and women to come to the aid of their country!
43 posted on
07/15/2014 8:40:37 PM PDT by
Taxman
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