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IF teachers were actually as useful as doctors then maybe the market would pay them that way. Teachers ‘work’ 9 months out of the year. Teachers get all sorts of days off so their real work schedule is like 190 days. Teachers get ridiculous pay and benefits for their ‘work’. Teachers have a failing system that seems incapable of correcting itself.

Doctors work ALL year long, if in private practice they do not get paid vacation days. Many docs work long, odd hours doing thankless and hard work. (Think pediatrician exposed to all of the kids who come in sick). If a doc has a ‘negative’ outcome they get sued and potentially lose their license to practice.

Teachers used to be well respected members of the local community. Now they are viewed as union stooges


6 posted on 04/23/2014 1:37:09 PM PDT by Nifster
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Yep. But teachers don’t like it when you point out that they get full time yearly wages and only work about 9 months of the year. Plus they get BOATLOADS of days off with holidays, teacher organization days, etc. and they frequently do more lib indoctrination than actually imparting knowledge


14 posted on 04/23/2014 1:48:52 PM PDT by originalbuckeye (Moderation in temper is always a virtue; moderation in principle is always a vice. Paine)
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Teachers are also among the lowest-scoring of all college grads. Doctors, of course, are more competitive in intelligence.


31 posted on 04/23/2014 3:02:23 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Nifster
WRONG. Teachers' work does not end at 3:00 p.m. They bring home papers to grade, they make up tests and handouts (which take hours to do properly), they make parental phone calls, they answer student email queries, they go out and purchase classroom supplies their school lacks (on their own dollar more than likely), etc. ON THEIR OWN TIME. So they are in fact working double hours for their pay.

You denigrate our work, yet I have serious doubts whether you could present a lesson in an engaging manner, or even just control a room of 34 kids who basically don't want to be there. And you don't mention having to deal with such remarks as being asked to suck various intimate body parts of students, being cursed and then threatened to be killed with a knife, with a gun, to be jumped after school out on the street. The week before last, I had a student brandish a metal table leg over my head in a threatening manner. I've been hit in the head with thrown bottles and other heavy objects. Do doctors have these occupational hazards? Not to the extent that teachers do!

Teachers are ALSO exposed to many types of diseases, dealing with kids from countries all over the world who are not necessarily vaccinated. How many times have I received memos to exclude certain children from my classes because their medical records and vaccinations were not in order, AFTER they'd been sitting in my classroom for L-rd knows how many months.

How can teachers be viewed as "union stooges" when the union has all but abandoned them to the predation of greedy and cruel politicians with their hand in the till, eagerly turning education into a cash cow for themselves called "edu-biz"?

Your post is so typical of people who have not stood in a classroom and walked in the moccasins of an educator.

53 posted on 04/23/2014 9:59:37 PM PDT by EinNYC
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“Teachers get all sorts of days off so their real work schedule is like 190 days.”

In MI we had an unusual amount of snow days this year, as did most of the states. I was shocked to see a news story about “make up days.” In the story they pointed out that the requirement is for 1,098 instructional hours. That equates to 27.45 40 hour work weeks. I couldn’t beleive that it was so low!

I work in manufacturing and when planning for the utilization of capital equipment, we use 47.5 production weeks per year. I’d assume that most industries utilize a similar schedule.

I do realize that classroom teachers actually do work outside of those “instructional hours.” That said, look at the math: 1098 / 47.5 weeks = 23.12 hrs per average work week. Even if the classroom teacher spends an additional 50% of their time towards work, then it would still only be an average work week of 34.67 hr weeks. The vast majority of the salaried folks I know in manufacturing work a minimum of 47.5 hr work weeks and many work additional hours at home.

I’m not intending to attack any individual teachers, however I was surprised when I scoped the disconnect....


61 posted on 04/24/2014 12:12:13 PM PDT by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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