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To: Art in Idaho
In exchange for the heavily armed and highly maneuverable choppers, Guard units will receive 111 UH-60 Blackhawk transport helicopters from the Army

What do they plan on transporting?

2 posted on 04/17/2014 10:02:36 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

Bodies?


4 posted on 04/17/2014 10:06:18 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: dragnet2
In exchange for the heavily armed and highly maneuverable choppers, Guard units will receive 111 UH-60 Blackhawk transport helicopters from the Army.

What do they plan on transporting?

Good point. . Three guesses folks. .

11 posted on 04/17/2014 10:09:32 AM PDT by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only Hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: dragnet2

“What do they plan on transporting? “

Bodies of the people killed by Apaches.


17 posted on 04/17/2014 10:15:13 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz ("Heck of a reset there, Hillary")
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To: dragnet2

Actually this appears to be a sensible reconfiguration of Army air assets. The National Guard is more likely in peacetime to need transport helicopters for the usual things they do stateside like disaster relief. The attack helicopters go with the regular army and are available for expeditionary assignments without calling up National Guard units.


42 posted on 04/17/2014 10:43:57 AM PDT by Procyon (Decentralize, degovernmentalize, deregulate, demonopolize, decredentialize, disentitle.)
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To: dragnet2

Not active duty soldiers, obviously.

Where are the cost savings? There will remain still need for maintenance & training flight hours too, to keep the edge (of forward deployable forces) sharp enough.

What happens to the Apache pilots now in Guard units? Will they be replaced by active duty Army? That will eat into any savings, unless one plans on semi- mothballing large numbers of those AH aircraft.

As it could effect order of battle units, it seems to me to that sending Blackhawks to the Guard in trade, puts those Guard units nearer the tip of the spear also, but less swiftly accessible for immediate use, even as it would separate in-unit Army Air Guard cover for ground transported Guard units, if or when push comes to shove.

This shifting of force could result in having whichever AH pilots end up with those birds, flying further from their own friendly, boots-on-the-ground covering forces, facing strong possibility of those helicopters being extended further to the tip (of spear) but along increasingly slender shaft (of spear) and support.

Some recovering of co-ordination of deployed forces can be achieved thru the folding of whichever Guard units into Army Division-- but at some price as to lack of well-lubricated cohesion. Since that's been the order-of-the-day otherwise --- I'm still wondering just where the cost saving are in taking the Attack Helicopters from the Guard.

If the monetary savings are in regards to a drawing down of active duty Airmobile infantrymen numbers, with the Guard in some recovery fleshing out those numbers and being "cheaper to keep" than full-time active duty, at least on paper...and some up-front actual monetary costs, where then other than the "what" which stands to be most immediately transported are any real savings, and at what costs to deployable order of battle force?

Pushing units around on paper --- is one thing. War gaming, another. The real thing -- we better had get it right from the first stabs as "it", whatever those "it" may appear on near-future horizon to be, while standing ready enough for what most likely could appear.

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89 posted on 04/17/2014 5:07:48 PM PDT by BlueDragon (A ship in the harbor is safe, but that is not what ships are for)
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