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Why many preppers will die
SHTF School ^ | 3/7/14 | Selco

Posted on 03/07/2014 3:15:41 PM PST by Kartographer

His story is not so unique, but I know much more stories about how folks got killed because they refused to leave their home (and run) when under attack by several people armed with firearms, while they were unarmed, or armed with pistol or knife, clearly outnumbered.

I read every day on web sentences like “having this gun will save you when SHTF” or “with this BOB you can not lose when SHTF”. Of course this is marketing crap from people who want to sell you something.

Please do not get yourself killed, or allow your family to die when SHTF just because you put your “perfect” BOB on, your “zombie survival” rifle in your hands and went out to save the world.

Or to get killed because you “draw line and here you stand your ground” for example when they attack your home or your storage. Do you really want to die just to hold onto things?

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To: elcid1970

Swiss family Robinson is a hilarious book!!! It was written by a guy who hD never left the country, writing about exotic Lands and animals he had read about in books. He wrote during the cold winters to amuse his family.

My little son made me read about the invading snake a 100 times and we laughed to tears. They have no snakes in Switzerland. So he had written that the vicious snake comes to attack them standing erect, bouncing up the path to the house.

I believe they also rode ostriches. And as Swiss cannot imagine life without potatoes, he wrote about the delight of the family Robinson finding wild potatoes growing on the island.
It really is a very funny book.


21 posted on 03/07/2014 3:44:01 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: Kartographer

I once attended a briefing on a controversial subject, and the man giving the briefing put an unusual illustration on the overhead projector.

It was of the head of a yawning baboon, showing its very large canine teeth. But on the ends of the upper canines descended two ropes, attached to a swing. On the swing was a young girl, seemingly swinging in and out of the gaping mouth of the yawning baboon.

He explained to us that the yawning baboon represented the government, the media, the public, or a combination of the three. And we, each of us, were the little girl swinging in and out of its mouth.

“As the baboon continues to be bored, it continues to yawn. But if something, anything, gets its attention, it will stop yawning, to your detriment. So if you make yourself known to the baboon, intentionally or otherwise, you are baboon food.”

As a lesson, this definitely applies to *any* SHTF scenario.

So, in order of importance, it is best to:

1) Not be noticed.
2) If noticed, to be uninteresting.
3) If interesting, to be interesting for unimportant reasons.
4) If interesting, for important reasons, to have alliances with those who will protect you.
5) “Time to go, grasshopper.”


22 posted on 03/07/2014 3:44:55 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (WoT News: Rantburg.com)
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To: Yaelle

I first read SwFR in a Classics Illustrated comic book. As a kid I thought it would be fun to live in a treehouse with all the comforts of home.

But later when the two grown sons decide to take to the open sea and discover the world beyond their island, their parents just wish them well & go back to the treehouse. Strange.


23 posted on 03/07/2014 3:53:17 PM PST by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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To: Kartographer

The writing is like a foreigner’s.


24 posted on 03/07/2014 3:54:16 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: Kartographer

SHTF = ???


25 posted on 03/07/2014 3:54:30 PM PST by ducttape45
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To: yarddog

Whoa there little buddy.


26 posted on 03/07/2014 3:55:52 PM PST by outofsalt (If history teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything.)
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To: ducttape45

Sh*t Hit The Fan


27 posted on 03/07/2014 3:55:59 PM PST by AppyPappy
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To: mad_as_he$$
I suggest to those that they have a Scorched earth plan.

In fact, a strategy I specifically recommend in my new book "When There is No FEMA". In my case I recommend (with plenty of caution) always having the mixin's for mustard gas on hand.

28 posted on 03/07/2014 3:56:06 PM PST by The Duke ("Forgiveness is between them and God, it's my job to arrange the meeting.")
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To: Kartographer

Won’t every prepper die? At some point?


29 posted on 03/07/2014 3:56:41 PM PST by married21 ( As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

Selco is Bosinian. A survivor of Sarajevo.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/3020536/posts


30 posted on 03/07/2014 3:57:33 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer; All

From what I’ve seen & heard most people are not ready to pull the trigger to end another person’s life. Oh we talk a great game, but when push comes to shove not everyone is ready to do this. Even not everyone in the military are ready to do this. We can train all we want, but need to make ourselves mentality ready. Can you make the pistil shot under extreme duress within 21 feet in seconds? My guess is no.


31 posted on 03/07/2014 3:57:53 PM PST by TMSuchman (John 15;13 & Exodus 21:22-25 Pacem Bello Pastoribus Canes [shepard of peace,dogs of war])
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To: ducttape45

“The excrement made physical contact with a hydro-electric powered oscillating air current distribution system.”


32 posted on 03/07/2014 3:59:27 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Mad Dawgg

Actually the best way to survive is to organize your neighbors into a viable defense force. I recommend “A Failure of Civility” by Mike Garand and Jack Lawson that will teach you to how to do just that. If you are a veteran you could join Oath Keepers and participate in their Civilization Preservation Teams project. Otherwise the bad guys will just pick you off one at a time.


33 posted on 03/07/2014 4:03:39 PM PST by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: married21; Lazamataz; Marcella; Old Sarge; JRandomFreeper; Eaker; humblegunner; metmom

No not Lazamataz and Marcella.


34 posted on 03/07/2014 4:06:32 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

The problem with prepping is that there is no “one size fits all”. I do, however, agree that a well stocked bug out bag is a good idea. Oh yea, and plenty of flashlights and batteries.


35 posted on 03/07/2014 4:10:10 PM PST by AlexW
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To: BitWielder1

That last point is a cogent one. A moral, freedom loving person has the general obligation outside of providing for their immediate loved ones of helping some semblance of society return to normal. That would include aiding in the cleanup of nee’r do wells.

That said, one thing I think a lot of people don’t quite “get” with respect to societal breakdown and it’s resultant anarchy and potential for armed battle is, YOU DON’T GET A “DO-OVER” ON GETTING SHOT.

There are a LOT of places where people are seen making battle with military style weapons (full auto no less) in other parts of the world where you as an American would probably stand a far greater chance of survival than here. Why? Because most of those other places the majority of people are crappy shots, AND they’re all using full metal jacket mil-spec ammo.

The U.S. is saturated with rifles that are shooting heavier loads and they are in probably the majority of instances firing ammunition designed for taking game animals. These rounds are soft nosed and/or hollow point and a strike that may, with a full jacket round be survivable, will most definitely not be with a hunting round.

Granted, it’s all of ours hope that the majority of the folks wielding weapons firing game rounds will be like minded individuals with the Republic’s best interest in mind, but when the times get “Selco’y”, you’re going to have to be VERY judicious in your assesment of others and your exposure to whatever they’re packing...


36 posted on 03/07/2014 4:16:12 PM PST by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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To: Kartographer

Is holding a BOB like choking your chicken?


37 posted on 03/07/2014 4:19:07 PM PST by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: Kartographer

If Bob had a helicopter I might leave but I can shoot a lot better than I can run. I suppose I would hang in there until help came form next door or when I got too shot up to survive go down in flames. Run? I can hardly walk.


38 posted on 03/07/2014 4:19:51 PM PST by mountainlion
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To: greeneyes

If you live in the right area, being “bunkered in” with the right equipment, supplies, and a decent neighbor-network, is exactly the right thing to do.

I live in a sparsely populated area with several like-minded neighbors. When the SHTF, a couple of large black-powder charges can drop bridges making our area extremely difficult to access.

A mech infantry battalion MIGHT be able to dislodge us, but nothing short of that will be able to even hurt us much.


39 posted on 03/07/2014 4:20:56 PM PST by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

Because it is, he lived through the Yugoslavian mayhem.


40 posted on 03/07/2014 4:22:55 PM PST by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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