Yeshua’s Famous Last Words Amen, Emet, Truth

Michael Rood's Sabbat NIght Live Via Youtube ^ | 28 February 2014 | Michael Rood

[Errant]

As the book of the Revelation comes to a close, we are left with some very important words. Keep his commandments, know his Torah, and make yourself ready to be the bride of the King. He is coming quickly. Join Michael Rood for the final episode in the series From Here to Eternity – Yeshua’s Famous Last Words: Amen, Emet, Truth.

[editor-surveyor]

>> “I disagree. Paul had obviously not been speaking Hebrew prior to that or they would have realized He spoke Hebrew before that. I should be obvious to the reader that he had to prove to them he could actually speak Hebrew” <<

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About as ignorant a conclusion as any human being could possibly make!

Paul was a Pharisee Rabbi, educated at the feet of Gamaliel.

Hebrew was his native language, and Greek was universally despised by all Hebrews, since the Macccabean Revolt.

Never having studied any history, you might not understand that.

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[Errant]

I have a lot of friends who’ve fallen for it hook/line/sinker. They will not even talk about what’s coming down the road, will not prepare, because they believe they’re going to be taken out of here before anything happens. Very sad...

[editor-surveyor]

It should be noted that the “13 names from carrying away to Babylon to Messiah” in post # 920 is false, in that it is the lineage of Joseph, not of Mary.
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[Errant]

Now THERE is some EVIDENCE! ;)

Thanks for your hard work there E-S!

May the "Greeks" choke on it... /jk lol

[editor-surveyor]

Not my work, its from the website noted at the top of the post.
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[Errant]

Thanks for posting anyway!

[Georgia Girl 2]

Yes they don’t seem to take into account all of the martyrs that have died for Christ through out history. Why do they think we won’t have to stand up and be counted when the time comes? I wonder what they will think when they are holding their child’s wrist out to take the chip for a food ration card from the govt?

[editor-surveyor]

>> “ I wonder what they will think when they are holding their child’s wrist out to take the chip for a food ration card from the govt?” <<

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After reading the raving insanity of the Empty Grace camp here, I’m convinced that they will take the mark without blinking.

They’ll say to themselves “ a real loving God wouldn’t want to keep us from eating.”
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[Errant]

Hey, let’s lighten up on CB too. That last post he made to me was downright civil...

[Errant]

"They’ll say to themselves “ a real loving God wouldn’t want to keep us from eating.”

Hammer meets nail on that comment!

[RansomOttawa]

The reason the people became upset was because Paul brought a group of Greeks that he was ministering to into the Temple.

"For they had previously seen Trophimus the Ephesian with him in the city, and they supposed that Paul had brought him into the temple" (Acts 21:29)

LOL! The Jewish enemies of Christ were spreading falsehoods about Paul. And you believed them!

[Errant]

LOL! The Jewish enemies of Christ were spreading falsehoods about Paul. And you believed them!

Our discussion is centered on the fact that anything Greek was despised by the Hebrews, and these verses in Acts serve as proof of that. I'm not sure why you're waving a flag with another "red herring" on it? Whether it was enemies of Paul/Yeshua or simply a mistake on the part of those Hebrews in the temple that day doesn't matter. The fact remains the Hebrew people in detested the Greeks.

[RansomOttawa]

and since the Hebrew people despised anything Greek,

You keep assuming this, but of course you keep omitting the fact that there were huge numbers of Hellenized Jews living outside of Palestine. Why do you suppose the gift of tongues came upon the disciples at Pentecost?

And how is it that we hear, each of us in his own native language? Parthians and Medes and Elamites and residents of Mesopotamia, Judea and Cappadocia, Pontus and Asia, Phrygia and Pamphylia, Egypt and the parts of Libya belonging to Cyrene, and visitors from Rome, both Jews and proselytes, Cretans and Arabians—we hear them telling in our own tongues the mighty works of God.” (Acts 2:8-11)

The earliest mass conversion of the Church, at Pentecost, was not of Hebrew-speaking Jews. In fact, the nations listed, by and large, are from north Africa, Persia, and Asia Minor, areas of Alexander the Great's empire that were partitioned between, respectively, Ptolemy, Seleucus, and Antigonus—all Macedonians, who continued Alexander's program of Hellenization.

History simply is not on the side of the Hebrew Rooters.

[RansomOttawa]

Some solid evidence that the New Testament was first presented in Hebrew:

By "solid evidence," do you mean actual physical copies that are earlier than the extant Greek copies?

No?

Well, then, forget this noise. Tl;dr.

[jjotto]

Wait! I’m confused. I thought the Jews of the time so loved the Greek language that they used the Greek Septuagint until all those Christian-hating rabbis changed it to Hebrew, and that, fortunately for us, the Catholic Church preserved the Greek original, as God intended.

[Errant]

Why do you suppose the gift of tongues came upon the disciples at Pentecost?

Again, another "red herring". Please explain why you think otherwise.

[RansomOttawa]

The fact remains the Hebrew people in detested the Greeks.

Still a red herring. Not everyone of Jewish descent spoke Hebrew.

[af_vet_1981]

In Rom. 5:8 The ambiguous Aramaic is understood by the Greek as "innocent" when in fact here it means "victory". In 8:37 the same ambiguous word is misunderstood by the Greek to mean "victory" but there it means "innocent".

In Rev. 15:2 the Greek misunderstands the Aramaic to mean "victorious" when it is better understood as "innocent"

Here are Romans 5:8 and 8:37 as well as Revelation 15:2, but I don't see all the referenced terms. Is Romans 5:8 a correct reference ? Did you mean "more than conquerors" should be rendered "innocent" and that "had gotten the victory over" should be "innocent from?"

• But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
• Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.
• And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire: and them that had gotten the victory over the beast, and over his image, and over his mark, and over the number of his name, stand on the sea of glass, having the harps of God.

[Errant]

:-)

I do give the gentile credit in helping to preserve most of the scriptures we have today. I imagine the Pharisees were on a mission to burn every last page out of existence during those trying times.

God intended for us to seek truth, in this the Hebrew Root movement is helping to resolve some of the discrepancies between the original Hebrew texts/meanings and translations we have today.

http://freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/3128823/posts?page=534#534

[Errant]

Not everyone of Jewish descent spoke Hebrew.

Of course not, but exactly how do you think that proves the first NT texts were ALL written in Greek (i.e., 100% as you contend)?