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To: butterdezillion

“I asked first. You tell me.”

I don’t know and neither do you. The difference is that I don’t weave my lack of knowledge into a fantasy conspiracy or say that there are discrepancies in the stories when there may not be.

“But the Coast Guard, from Oahu, took over an hour to get there with their helicopters and speedboat, which we have no record of ever arriving and no photos of.”

Nope, wrong again. The first CG helicopter arrived at either 4:05 (per Lang) or 3:45 (per Miller). Personally, I think that Lang’s timeline is more accurate as there is no doubt that he was on the scene and everyone agrees he was the first to spot the plane.

“Does somebody in law enforcement suspect foul play?”

Maybe whenever there is a fatality it is automatically considered a law enforcement investigation. Maybe the FBI has an agent watching the FAA/NTSB investigation.


739 posted on 03/01/2014 2:02:20 PM PST by 4Zoltan
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To: 4Zoltan

YOu apparently haven’t even looked at my youtube video where I explained that the USCG was reported in the MCFD communications as being present only at 4:44. Four minutes AFTER the news media - informed by Richard KAWASAKI, who was the MCFD’s media liaison together with Lt. William Juan of the Maui County Police Dept - reported that there was one dead.

Where did Lang say that the USCG arrived at 4:05? What I’ve seen of his comments was that he left at 4:30 when he was able to show somebody where the victims were. Even though there were supposed to be smoke flares to do that. Who laid down the smoke flares and when? We’re told it was a navy helicopter. When did the navy helicopter do that?

The MCFD incident report says their helicopter arrived on-scene at 4:30 while they were still trying to make contact with the USCG. AT 4:38 the crew manning the helicopter reported seeing 3 people in the water that they were going to lift out.

They were also trying to find out how many people were out there because around the time the helicopter arrived on-scene Richard Schumann said it would take him an hour to come up with a list of who was on that plane. And civilians had reported that most of the victims had already swum ashore.

Discrepancies all over the place, like I said.


741 posted on 03/01/2014 2:22:36 PM PST by butterdezillion (Note to self : put this between arrow keys: img src=""/)
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To: 4Zoltan

When there is a fatality the NTSB is supposed to handle the EVIDENCE as if it was a law enforcement investigation, because they can’t know but that a crime had been committed. The NTSB didn’t do that, so if a crime was committed the evidence is contaminated and could not stand up in trial. So the NTSB botched that part.

But even if there’s a death the NTSB is not a law enforcement body. If they suspect a crime they can report it and then law enforcement investigates. Are you suggesting that the NTSB found evidence of a crime and referred it to the FBI, and that’s why I can’t see the radio communications?


742 posted on 03/01/2014 2:27:22 PM PST by butterdezillion (Note to self : put this between arrow keys: img src=""/)
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