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To: Advil000

Puentes has video of Fuddy and Yamamoto right by the door of the plane when the top of the 2 windows between the wing and the door is just submerged and the bottom of the back window is already in the water.

Lang’s image has the top of the 2 windows between the wing and the door not quite submerged yet (the frame of the window still shows) and the bottom of the back window just getting ready to go into the water. And no people ANYWHERE, within probably 2x the wing’s length.

If these were photos of the same event they had to have been taken close together in time. So where did all the people go? Lang says he saw the people in life jackets - so where are they in his photos?


148 posted on 02/23/2014 6:06:44 PM PST by butterdezillion (Note to self : put this between arrow keys: img src=""/)
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To: butterdezillion
...Lang’s image has the top of the 2 windows between the wing and the door not quite submerged yet (the frame of the window still shows) and the bottom of the back window just getting ready to go into the water. And no people ANYWHERE, within probably 2x the wing’s length.

There's good reason to ask if that photo of the plane in the water with the windows nearest to the wing barely visible, is actually an image supplied by Josh, the helicopter pilot. It's starting to look like that image was taken from an AIRCRAFT not a helicopter, and quite some time AFTER Josh took his photo.

157 posted on 02/23/2014 6:14:19 PM PST by Fred Nerks
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To: butterdezillion
HELICOPTERS DON'T HAVE WINGS.

This image may have been attributed to Josh in error:


158 posted on 02/23/2014 6:17:14 PM PST by Fred Nerks
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To: butterdezillion

Why would Lang take photos of the plane and not take photos of the people? After an accident, someone who happened to come upon a plane down, or knew of it (I can’t remember which it was said to be in Lang’s case) would not just take photos of the plane, but of the survivors. So if he took photos of the real plane, he must have taken photos of the survivors. If they were not near the plane, he would have photographed them. THere is not a chance he would not have done so.

Where are his photos of the people floating around far away from the plane?


163 posted on 02/23/2014 6:23:49 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: butterdezillion

http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/24246422/exclusive-pilot-describes-discovering-molokai-plane-crash

Josh describes what he saw. Apparently now, it seems from a message just received, that Josh wasn’t flying a helicopter on that day. He was described as a helicopter pilot, and that leaves the impression he was in a chopper.

excerpt:

“As we approached the object in the water, we quickly realized that it was an aircraft and flew down lower to look for people in the water. We verified the tail number of the aircraft and that there were nine people in the water,” the couple wrote in a statement provided to Hawaii News Now.

Lang and Thomson say they contacted the Moloka’i tower and landed back at the airport to see if anyone was available to help, but say no one was around.

“We decided it best to get back in the plane and fly over the people in the water to try to give them some comfort that they were not alone and were going to be rescued. During this time we made many low passes over the crash site and people, and watched the Cessna Grand Caravan aircraft slowly sinking,” the statement goes on to say.

While the couple circled above, they say they watched passengers drift west in the current and waves as one person managed to swim to shore.

According to Lang and Thomson, about 15 minutes before the first rescue crew arrived the aircraft completely submerged and sank.


166 posted on 02/23/2014 6:26:07 PM PST by Fred Nerks
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