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To: holden
- The engine manufacturer would be "all-over" getting a tear-down of the engine for liability and future Airworthiness Directive data. If the failure was genuine and not "helped along", there are people that can figure that out.

That is indeed the NTSB's plan.

Of course, there would have been no motive for helping the engine along, especially so close to shore. If smart conspirators wanted to kill Fuddy in a plane crash, why didn't they do just that? Over open water with no survivors or other witnesses?

- That the plane was so badly, purposefully (?) mangled is an issue. Why? To hide a non-failure? To hide recovery negligence? I'm confident the plane could have been brought up using floatation devices without damage.

No, it isn't. I see no reason to doubt salvager Patrick Ross's account of the plane's condition.

- With the plane going down so shortly after take-off, the pilot must have been familiar with the waters where he brought it down. It would be conceivable that, were he "in on bring it down", he could've placed it where there was one or more divers. Alternately, the pilot could've brought it down onto a pre-arranged GPS waypoint. Such a waypoint might still have been accessible from the recovery of an "un-mangled" Caravan GPS receiver.

That's absurd. Please don't ever conspire to murder somebody. Either the person will survive, or you will get caught, or both.

- Interesting that the "spiraling into the ocean" GMA info-babe comes out with "Fernidand."

What does infobabe air-headedness have to do with anything?

142 posted on 02/23/2014 6:02:06 PM PST by cynwoody
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To: cynwoody
That I would be easily discovered if I were in a conspiracy to murder someone is fine with me. I don't ever want to be successful at such an evil. But that's not to agree with your assertion of absurdity.

A confident, not-protesting-too-much infobabe, IMHO, would not be very likely to hurl nonsense about "spiraling into the ocean", "passengers don't know it yet (the heck they didn't, they heard a noise and saw the ocean and landscape rising up all around them as the plane descended!), "mad scramble" (while elsewhere she remarks "how calm everone was"/"so methodical"), "throughout the three-minute ordeal" (what was she smoking?).

We saw other posters on FR presenting overheated portrayals that seemed to be informed and yet given to gross distortions of the scenario. Those were overly dramatic and factually filled with errors.

She doth protest too much or was simply in over her head. She's not ready for a national news desk assignment. Perhaps her superiors made a poor choice or put too much pressure on her in some fashion.

I hadn't seen the salvager's account. Thanks for linking to that. I hadn't realized it was underwater for a week, during which time it obviously would've been susceptible to ocean floor currents and swells. With that information in hand, I have no evidence to doubt the salvager. Still if the memory of the GPS showed a manual entry of that patch of ocean, it'd certainly and justifiably raise the suspicion of foul play to new heights.

If the NTSB and P&W find a reasonable, "natural" cause for the engine failure, I would certainly need further evidence to conjecture anything in the direction of foul play.

Puentes is quite a curious character to have TWO GoPro cameras at the ready, one conveniently on a staff. Who could've done planning any better than that? Then, how he got the one who was "killed" in the lens for perhaps crucial moments was interesting.

I'm not into making conjectures, but I would be into considering all characteristics outside the norm as being potential evidence of anomalous behavior.

HF

171 posted on 02/23/2014 6:39:20 PM PST by holden
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