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I’ve been divorced four times, but homosexuals are the ones destroying marriage
The Matt Walsh Blog ^ | February 4, 2014 | The Matt Walsh Blog

Posted on 02/05/2014 4:15:29 AM PST by xzins

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To: xzins
And then I remembered no-fault divorce. I remembered that marriage is the ONLY LEGAL CONTRACT A PERSON CAN BREAK WITHOUT THE OTHER PARTY’S CONSENT AND WITHOUT FACING ANY LEGAL REPERCUSSIONS.

What else can you do . . . when one party simply abandons the other?

This is what has happened to me. My wife left me. For no good reason. I believe in marriage. I took my vows seriously and did not break them. I did everything I could over the last couple of years to try to keep our marriage together. But she was not willing. I am opposed to divorce. But there is nothing I can do to stop it. The divorce is scheduled to be finalized next week.

41 posted on 02/05/2014 11:00:02 AM PST by Charles Henrickson (D-Day is set for February 13.)
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To: Charles Henrickson

my condolences


42 posted on 02/05/2014 11:01:02 AM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Responsibility2nd
These and many other stinging rebukes are found within this article. Is Matt Walsh making valid points or not?

No-fault Divorce, and the high divorce rate among Christians have probably done more to damage the institution of marriage than gay marriage has.
43 posted on 02/05/2014 11:03:28 AM PST by Sopater (Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? - Matthew 20:15a)
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To: Charles Henrickson

It is something that probably wouldn’t have happened a hundred years ago. I’m saddened by what has happened to you. But, what do you think are the major differences between now and a hundred years ago?


44 posted on 02/05/2014 11:05:11 AM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: xzins

I’ve been married once, and never divorced, so I feel qualified to make a statement here.

Yes, divorce and other consequences of the sexual revolution of the 60s, have practically destroyed marriage.

But that is no excuse for taking a bad situation and making it worse.


45 posted on 02/05/2014 11:09:49 AM PST by chesley
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To: drbuzzard
Actually the read elephant in the room on the subject of marriage is who killed it. The Left now commonly cites the divorce rate as evidence that traditional marriage is already dead, but they are the ones that introduced no fault divorce all over the country and ensured its demise (as well as the introduction of the notion that sex, love, and marriage are all unrelated, nor even that it might be better if they were linked).

Keep in mind that the left made it affordable when they gave single and unwed mothers extra cash for each child. That which you reward you increase.

46 posted on 02/05/2014 11:24:07 AM PST by verga (Poor spiritual health often leads to poor physical and mental health)
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To: chesley
But that is no excuse for taking a bad situation and making it worse.

I agree. Divorce does not legitimize homosexual marriage. That is a huge leap in illogic.

47 posted on 02/05/2014 11:46:13 AM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: Frapster
The title is a non sequiter
48 posted on 02/05/2014 12:42:14 PM PST by TalBlack
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To: xzins

Very true. So true it hurts.

My synod (Lutheran LCMS) is to lax on divorce. Even with that we have lower rates than most churches.

Most pastors and priests are very scared about preaching or talking about divorce. To many in the pews have gone through it, and many are hurting from it, to make it an easy sermon.

We as the Church need to fix our own flippant disregard of marriage.


49 posted on 02/05/2014 1:27:47 PM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

There is honestly a lot of truth in that.

Marriage used to be defined as a man and a woman coming together to form a family with (God willing) kids.

Then it became a contract to.. well just have fun.


50 posted on 02/05/2014 1:32:59 PM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Gen.Blather
Some people are better off never getting married.They either lack the will to make it work or they are such poor judges of character that they consistently pick the wrong mate.The children(if any)pay the biggest price.Six ex-wives,what a mess.
51 posted on 02/05/2014 2:36:49 PM PST by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Someone once observed that a majority of people are against abortion except for rape, incest, and ... my personal situation. In the same way, it seems that if people are against divorce at all, they allow exceptions for abuse, adultery, and ... my personal situation.

If we say a short-term “starter marriage” is okay, as long as one settles down with spouse #2, or if we say there should be an easy walk-away clause when middle-aged people with grown children have “drifted apart,” then we’re simply saying that marriage means nothing.

This is what you want, this is what you get.


52 posted on 02/05/2014 3:08:18 PM PST by Tax-chick (Six more weeks of winter.)
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To: xzins

Liberal Premise: Marriage isn’t working so we should let gay people do it.

Riiggghhhttttt......


53 posted on 02/05/2014 3:10:43 PM PST by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: xzins

Divorce is a process and symptom, not a disease to marriage. Marriages that end in divorce usally indicate the marriage was a bad idea to begin with. Especially those within the first five years.

I see the biggest problem these days as the instant gratification of quick marriages without thinking through the consequences of the action. People don’t seem to want to take the time to truly get to know someone first and then are shocked by behavior later.

I’ve been married for close to 30 years and I’ve had many opportunites to cheat. But if I wanted to fool around I wouldn’t have gotten married and stayed single.

But the fact heterosexuals screw it up doesn’t equal same sex marriage is better. Let’s say the majority of states go for same sex marriage and it eventually becomes moot. Are these same leftist going to blast marriage when same sex couples start divorcing at the same rates?


54 posted on 02/05/2014 3:35:20 PM PST by Fledermaus (If we here in TN can't get rid of the worthless Lamar, it's over.)
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To: Tax-chick
I didn't understand it that way. I understood him to be arguing that "gay" marriage is beside the point. Real marriage is the point: exclusive, permanent, and life-giving marriage.

That's what I read too - and yes, 'gelatinous mass of contradiction' was from me... not every day I can work that into a conversation. But it was appropriate. ;-)

I will close this rant with some wise words from Sarah Palin: "Build the America you want in your home ... and keep looking up."

Exactly! (even if not the exact quote)

55 posted on 02/06/2014 3:59:55 AM PST by Frapster (Build the America you want in your home... and keep looking up.)
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To: Tax-chick
I think the author brought up homosexuals simply to dismiss their relevance to the issue. However, it could be argued. On the other hand, beginning to argue about homosexuals is a distraction from the real problem.

You are reading with too much intelligence. Please reduce your comprehension to knee jerk reactions.

56 posted on 02/06/2014 4:03:39 AM PST by Frapster (Build the America you want in your home... and keep looking up.)
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To: Frapster

I’m going to try to find occasions to use “we will have dominion over all time and space.” It’s so visually vivid!

I think Sarah said “on your street,” or something like that, but in this context, that’s too large a scope. All you can do is affect your own family, and be a good neighbor on your street, regardless.


57 posted on 02/06/2014 4:35:46 AM PST by Tax-chick (There is no nose, there is only Zuul.)
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To: Frapster

Oh, for the love of Pete! I went upstairs to get the baby out of trouble, and me teenagers redid my post!


58 posted on 02/06/2014 4:38:43 AM PST by Tax-chick (There is no nose, there is only Zuul.)
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To: Tax-chick

Also, my hands are freezing and I can’t type.


59 posted on 02/06/2014 4:45:48 AM PST by Tax-chick ("The right" is a gelatinous mass of contradiction.)
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To: xzins
he argues that the gay marriage folks have a point when they showcase the sorry state of divorce. He then should make a stronger case that there is no legitimacy for so-called “gay marriage” no matter what the traditional marriage divorce rate.

Bingo. This reads like the text of a sermon in which he introduced a "wedge issue" to wake up the sleepers in the pews; but his real point is about marriage.

I agree that marriage has fallen into complete disrepair in our culture. But having researched the laws surrounding it, I find that the "liberation" movements of the 60s onward, where most of the prior expectations of marriage were carried up to the Supreme Court where they were liberalized wholesale, had a lot to do with destroying most social supports for marriage. The high court overwhelmingly upheld the "rights" of the unmarriued to be treated identically to the married in terms of access to birth control, and marriage-indifference in childbearing and rearing, employment in areas affecting children, lodging and housing. As these supports were cut away, couples who are young or who need some time to adjust into full marital responsibility were cut adrift. As well, palimony and no-fault were death blows to the institution, especially the idea that adultery or abandonment would carry no legal for financial consequences. With the best intentions, illegitimacy lost its stigma; however, it also lost any social approbrium and can no longer be used as a negative consequence to deny employment. And while no-fault divorces are easier to obtain, the threat of divorce bankrupting one's future has also put a damper on getting married in the first place.

As a result of this radically liberal agenda, marriage has become a situation of Russian roulette.

60 posted on 02/06/2014 7:38:02 AM PST by Albion Wilde (The less a man knows, the more certain he is that he knows it all.)
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