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The Terrible Truth About Abraham Lincoln and the Confederate War
Snap Out of it, America! ^ | 1/20/14 | Michael Hutcheson

Posted on 01/20/2014 1:42:16 PM PST by mhutcheson

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To: Deb

Southerners call it what it was, the War of Northern Aggression.


21 posted on 01/20/2014 1:56:28 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (The War on Drugs has been used as an excuse to steal your rights. Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: mhutcheson

Well done. The war was about money and political machinations as are most wars. It was certainly not about slavery.

If Lincoln had lived all the blacks today would be sitting over in Africa or on the Res out in the black hills. He planned to remove them from mainstream society.


22 posted on 01/20/2014 1:57:03 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Kansas58

And if he had to imprison anyone who spoke out against the war and send his troops to murder a few hundred thousand people, so be it.


23 posted on 01/20/2014 1:57:55 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (The War on Drugs has been used as an excuse to steal your rights. Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: Resolute Conservative
The war continues today with libs playing the north and conservatives the south.

No way. The 1860s Dems and the 2014 Dems are just alike, they both see themselves as elitist and want to enslave as many people as possible. The good guys on in 1865, no doubt about it.

24 posted on 01/20/2014 1:58:54 PM PST by Partisan Gunslinger
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To: SharpRightTurn

I am not in the mood for that.

Some of my ancestors came her to get away from incredible abuse of power during Reconstruction, which did not last long then in Texas. It was a bit dangerous for outside meddlers here then.


25 posted on 01/20/2014 2:02:41 PM PST by Texas Fossil
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To: mhutcheson
"Only after the Union had suffered two years of crushing defeats in battle..."

Hold the phone. Does the author know anything about the actual war?

"The Virginia front was by far the more prestigious theater. ... Yet the war's outcome was decided not there but in the vast expanse that stretched west from the Appalachian Mountains to the Mississippi and beyond. Here, in the West, the truly decisive battles were fought."-- Stephen Woodward.

The union won nearly every battle in the western theatre.

26 posted on 01/20/2014 2:02:45 PM PST by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Gone Galt, 11/07/12----No king but Christ! Don't tread on me!)
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To: ClearCase_guy

I would also like to know the truth of this.


27 posted on 01/20/2014 2:03:03 PM PST by Bobalu (The true secret to genius is in creativity, not in technical mechanics - Richard Feynman)
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To: mhutcheson

As I recall, Confederate General Longstreet once ‘the South left the Union because of our differences, the only difference I ever heard of was slavery’.

So argue away that the Civil War was not about slavery, I believe that many confederate soldiers actually believed that. Ultimately the war WAS about differences that hinged on slavery. Consequently, the Civil War really was about slavery.

If it had not been for Slavery, the South would have never left the Union in the first place.


28 posted on 01/20/2014 2:03:05 PM PST by teppe (... for my God ... for my Family ... for my Country ....)
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To: Resolute Conservative

“The war continues today with libs playing the north and conservatives the south.”

I seem to recall the governments of the seceding states were filled with Democrats and the Copperheads and Northern Democrats opposed the war.

Looks to me like the Democrats/Socialists/Leftists have been working to destroy this country since at least the 1860’s.

Some of us don’t stand with them.


29 posted on 01/20/2014 2:03:09 PM PST by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of their ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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To: mhutcheson

I agree with this, bravo!


30 posted on 01/20/2014 2:03:22 PM PST by Nowhere Man (Mom I miss you! (8-20-1938 to 11-18-2013) Cancer sucks)
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To: mhutcheson

The fact that The South was pro-slavery overshadows and overwrites everything else. People who whine about the South being treated unfairly, having a right to secede, blah-blah-blah are the same as people who cry crocodile tears over the burning of Dresden or the Hiroshima nuking or Osama Bin Laden being killed without a proper trial. When your country/organization is responsible for the Holocaust, or the Rape of Nanking, or 9/11, or slavery, you are always wrong in every conflict with a nation that rejects such savagery.

The South was pro-slave, the North was anti-slave, it doesn’t matter if Lincoln aggregated power, or fired the first shot, or burned Southern cities, or used slavery as a pretext for putting down a legitimate rebellion. The slave factor overrides everything else, just like the Holocaust factor completely justifies the Dresden bombing and Japanese inhumanity to captured civilians and soldiers justifies Hiroshima.

Here is what the South SHOULD have done, to win the war or atleast to save its reputation in defeat: All they had to do was to free the slaves. The great justification for the war would be gone, and even if defeated, the Confederate cause would not be forever stained with slavery. What they did do was the exact opposite, they cemented slavery in their founding documents and thus doomed their cause not only to certain defeat, but to infamy.


31 posted on 01/20/2014 2:03:44 PM PST by BurningOak (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2830849/reply?c=1)
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To: mhutcheson

The facts support your article. I’ve long argued that it was not a “civil war”, which is defined as a war between citizens of the same country, but rather a “war of Northern aggression.” Nothing in the Constitution forbids states from seceding. Your article is great because it’s based on facts and not the fabrications of the victors. Lincoln should have listened to that member of his cabinet that suggested he let the South go in peace. Great article.


32 posted on 01/20/2014 2:03:49 PM PST by lakecumberlandvet (Appeasement never works.)
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To: ClearCase_guy
If anyone can give me cold, hard, specific facts which support the claim, I would be much obliged.

You're going to be waiting a long time. lol

There was never a tariff or levy on the south in the years leading up to the war. The south opposed the tariff on foreign goods because it caused a trade war to hurt them in the cotton business. The Congress gave the south what they wanted in 1853 or so, lowering the tariff to an acceptable rate to the south.

Like Mississippi said, it was all about slavery.

33 posted on 01/20/2014 2:03:58 PM PST by Partisan Gunslinger
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To: mhutcheson

Get over it. The North won. Even R.E. Lee and James Longstreet accepted that the war settled the issue.


34 posted on 01/20/2014 2:04:53 PM PST by Timmy
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To: Servant of the Cross

Or Deleted.


35 posted on 01/20/2014 2:05:34 PM PST by Deb (If you wanna laugh everyday, follow Deepak Chopra on Twitter)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Southerners call it what it was, the War of Northern Aggression.

Except for that whole Sumter thing. lol

36 posted on 01/20/2014 2:05:44 PM PST by Partisan Gunslinger
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To: mhutcheson; All

What a thread! I wish that you had provided more references than that single link to substantiate your assertions. Its Google time.


37 posted on 01/20/2014 2:06:04 PM PST by Amendment10
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To: anton
<>What a better world this would be if the South succession had been a achieved permanently.

What a better world this would be if the south would have picked their own dam cotton!

38 posted on 01/20/2014 2:06:53 PM PST by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
Well done. The war was about money and political machinations as are most wars. It was certainly not about slavery.

How do you explain the Declarations of Secession, which say it was slavery?

39 posted on 01/20/2014 2:06:59 PM PST by Partisan Gunslinger
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Well then, dig him up and shoot him again, idiot.


40 posted on 01/20/2014 2:07:51 PM PST by Deb (If you wanna laugh everyday, follow Deepak Chopra on Twitter)
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