Posted on 12/27/2013 11:24:17 AM PST by honestabe010
What flavor of immigrants? Legal ones? I think a LOT of cherry picking is going on here.
Let’s re-label the article “Why Mexicans are better people then Americans” and just leave it at that.
Minor corollary question: if tens of millions of Mexicans will make the United States a better place, why didn’t it work in Mexico?
Treat Eric Holder's people separately and you have a whole different ballgame.
My wife is Filipina ... were crossin I's and dotting T's, sending in their tax money and waiting the required time.
Ya .. so .. ?
She is eligible for citizenship in a couple of months>
Oh ... men immigrants.
Cross your I's, dot your T's, pay the tax money, wait your turn.
What needs to be reformed ?
Im an immigrant too...
Nothing needed to be reformed for me...
:)
“immigration reform” Is an attempt to create a permanant DemocrAT majority. The Same Demos are likely giving GOP establishment types tax breaks and cheap labor in return for stabbinbg us in the back. They are proving Lenins dictum that the capitalist will sell the rope to his own hanging. Eveything they say about it is a lie.
We may very well decide on humanitarian grounds, that we must allow some of the people who have come here in violation of the law and who have stayed here in violation of the law, and who have worked here in violation of the law, to have some legal status to live and work here. We DO NOT OWE THEM ANYTHING ELSE! And we especially do not owe them the right to vote. If we grant such people the vote, we would be MAKING A GRAVE MISTAKE.
The stat is for all foreign born persons legal or illegal that is what is meant by immigrant in regards to the incarceration rate the study is here http://www.immigrationpolicy.org/sites/default/files/docs/Imm%20Criminality%20(IPC).pdf I would recommend Jason Riley’s “Let Them in: the Case for Open Borders.” The strongest case is the economic one and its one that the Wall Street Journal (who Riley is a member of) have been promoting for a long time, However many are against immigration because they think they will change the cultural dynamic of America. The most famous person to make this argument was Samuel Huntington the Harvard political scientist in his book Who Are We. However, there is a large amount of literature that refutes that the most notable being “Testing Huntington: Is Hispanic Immigration a Threat to American Identity?” http://www.apsanet.org/imgtest/perspectivesmar07citrin_etal.pdf A lot of people have the idea that they do not assimilate or that they are a drain on welfare or the economy and this article citing studies from several different organizations like PEW, CBO, Fiscal Policy Center, Immigration Policy Center, Gallup, Bureau of Justice Statistics, American Action Forum, Bipartisan Policy Center, CDC, U.S. Census Bureau, Center of Budget and Policy Priorities, Partnership for a New American Economy as well as other studies, most of them are hyperlinked in the article so you can look them up.
the Senate Bill has a minimum of 13 years before anyone can become a citizen, they will not be voting soon
So you are for immigration ‘reform’, otherwise known as the Perpetual Democratic Control of Government Act? Get lost.
Because Mexico has no economy or infrastructure and corrupt govt, drug cartels etc, I mean I’m not saying the U.S. is not corrupt but not in the way Mexico is, plus people also come from Guatemala, El Salvador and other Central American countries they simply through the Mexican border, and the ones that come to America are generally a self selecting group meaning they have better work ethic and determination that other inhabitants of their country.
You mean the case where a half-million H1-B visa holders came in during the 2002 IT slump? Or the case where meatpacker wages sank dramatically due to hiring of illegals?
Of course corporatist shills at the WSJ like it. Working Americans should not.
Mmmmm.........the Socratic Method. I'm betting the Third World hasn't the faintest idea who Socrates was.
Why did America start importing the world’s masses at the very same time that the people were deciding that 200 or so million Americans was about right, and that we could have a wonderful and healthy, and clean nation without becoming like China or India?
“However, if there is one man who can take the most credit for the 1965 act, it is John F. Kennedy. Kennedy seems to have inherited the resentment his father Joseph felt as an outsider in Boston’s WASP aristocracy. He voted against the McCarran-Walter Act of 1952, and supported various refugee acts throughout the 1950s. In 1958 he wrote a book, A Nation of Immigrants, which attacked the quota system as illogical and without purpose, and the book served as Kennedy’s blueprint for immigration reform after he became president in 1960. In the summer of 1963, Kennedy sent Congress a proposal calling for the elimination of the national origins quota system. He wanted immigrants admitted on the basis of family reunification and needed skills, without regard to national origin. After his assassination in November, his brother Robert took up the cause of immigration reform, calling it JFK’s legacy. In the forward to a revised edition of A Nation of Immigrants, issued in 1964 to gain support for the new law, he wrote, “I know of no cause which President Kennedy championed more warmly than the improvement of our immigration policies.” Sold as a memorial to JFK, there was very little opposition to what became known as the Immigration Act of 1965.”
Mass population and multiculturalism assures that an all powerful government is needed to hold the mess together, and that there will be no national American identity or culture in conflict with the left’s vision of the future, that had stopped the goals of centuries of people like the Kennedys, who had wanted to break this unique nation.
INCONVENIENT FACTOIDS:
<><> The Senate "amnesty reform" bill absolves latinos holding US public office---from prosecution for wrongdoing while in office for stuff like government fraud, graft, bribery, selling their votes for cash....the usual politician crimes the pols know so well?
<><> Thw amnesty bill contains a constantly replenished $100 million dollar slush fund for America-hating La Raza.
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Senator Harry Reid Supports Giving Illegal Aliens Tax Credits for Kids Not Even Living in US
Townhall.com ^ | October 30, 2013 | Mike Shedlock / FR Posted by Kaslin
U.S. Rep. Sam Johnson, R-Texas, left, wants to end the practice of giving illegal immigrants tax credits for kids, but U.S. Sen. Harry Reid, D-Nev., won’t let the House-approved measure H.R. 556 through the Senate. "The System is Working Fine" says Senator Harry Reid, even though the Joint Committee on Taxation calculates that enactment of H.R. 556 would save taxpayers $24.4 billion over the next decade.
The House of Representatives repeatedly has passed an IRS bill that could save U.S. taxpayers up to $24.4 billion over the next 10 years — but Harry Reid’s Democratic Senate will not hear it.
The Refundable Child Tax Credit Eligibility Verification Reform Act, or H.R. 556, would require tax filers to provide Social Security numbers to claim child tax credits. Currently, the IRS allows undocumented residents to collect the $1,000 credits for dependents not even living in the country. Watchdog reported that illegal immigrants received $4.2 billion from the tax agency in just one year.
“My bill (targets) billions of dollars in waste, fraud and abuse. Instead of hitting up taxpayers for even more taxes, Washington needs to go after these billions of dollars,” said U.S. Rep. Sam Johnson, R-Texas.
Though the GOP-controlled House has passed Johnson’s measure three times, Senate Majority Leader Reid, D-Nev., refuses to allow the bill to come up for a vote in his chamber. “The IRS has been doling out the credit to tax filers claiming children who do not even live in the country,” Johnson charged.
<><> Senate Democrats rejected an amendment to the bill that would protect Americans from ID theft. Sen SCHUMER SUCKS UP FOR AMNESTY-- ON RECORD AS AIDING AND AETTING FELONIES SCHUMER: "When people are living in undocumented status, there are times, I suppose, when they've made up identities, made up (or stolen) Social Security numbers. How are they going to remember all that? (The) purpose of this bill is to bring people out of the shadows. We all know when they lived in the shadows, they had to forge documents, forge Social Security numbers, et cetera. I just don't see how, when you've lived here 10 years, and you've had many different identities, many different numbers, you're going to remember them all," said Schumer.
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We're led to believe that currently living in the US are roughly 11 million Mexicans, and other illegals, who gather at the Mexican border to stroll into the US (including swarthy terrorists who pass themselves off as latino)....
INCONVENIENT FACTOID These numbers are invented for political purposes. Mexico and the Third World are pushing North at a a furious pace--can't wait to get their greedy hands on US foreign aid and get back the Southwest.
This is nothing more than flagrant agit-prop from political pressure groups. The so-called "fleeing to the safety of the US" is nothing more than an invasion of America-hating foreigners pushing their Third World agenda----vile, repugnant "ethnic solidarity" rearing its ugly head.
Keep in mind, these scam artists are intent on building a Third World on US soil using our tax dollars---they want to relegate born-Americans to third class status.
That ain't gonna happen.
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THIRD WORLD'S GOT B-I-G PLANS---AMNESTY IS ONLY THE BEGINNING : "Once Congress approves an immigration increase, minorities should demand more, said Cong Gutierrez (Dim-Third World), a leading advocate of the Senate bill giveaway.
“The next day after we pass it, you know we’re not going to be satisfied, we’re going to come back,” he said. “We’re going to have a civil rights act, we’re going to have a voting rights act… Nobody is leaving this fight once we conclude this first chapter,” he said. "Hopefully, in 30 years, [we] can bring immigrants… from all over the world,” Gutierrez said.
We don't owe them anything at all, including the "humanitarian" concessions you mentioned.
Look at the phrase which repeats in your post: "in violation of the law." They are criminals. They were perfectly willing to violate our laws in order to benefit themselves, and they are adults who did so deliberately. They deserve nothing.
What a foolish ill informed statement.
Millions of illegal insurgent criminal invading colonists have been voting in elections for well over a decade in vast, large numbers...millions and millions of them.
Why do you suppose the dems are so intent on having lots of them here?
The motorvoter program got many of them voting rights, and now several states are allowing them to get drivers licenses.
And politicians are not doing anything about voter fraud, either this type, ACORN, etc.
Not to mention that the traitor Holder lets black panthers with clubs keep whites out of voting locations.
You think he will do anything about all the illegal voters that vote for his daddy Obama?
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