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And for all we know many of them were just sweet talking latinos and not serious anyway.

And sweet talking the Chamber of Commerce and pro-amnesty lobbyists? Maybe, but they might be harder to fool, and the consequences for double crossing them is more difficult to fix.

Before this announcement, John Carter (TX-31, my district, and a member of what was at that time the pro-amnesty House "Gang of 7" but now is smaller without Carter and Johnson, leaving only one GOP member and 4 Dems) was selling amnesty at those groups in person. He also tried it at a Texas Tea Party group this year, but they were not buying, and in fact some members were talking about a primary challenge after that event.

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Compare the new "Gang of 5" with the optimistic House "Gang of 8" in April this year: GOP sources familiar with the negotiations going on in the bipartisan House immigration working group believe those lawmakers could be ready to introduce their bill in May. Issues remain to be worked out, including some politically thorny ones, but the House group’s joint statement presents the clearest sign yet that they are close to getting to yes.

Don't celebrate too soon though. We know what happens in horror movies after they think the monster is dead.