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To: Rides3
“The words “shall be deemed to be a citizen of the United States to the same extent as though her marriage to said alien had taken place on or after September 22, 1922”, as they appeared in the 1936 and 1940 statutes, are prospective and restore the status of native-born or natural-born citizen (whichever existed prior to the loss) as of the date citizenship was reacquired.”

Native-born citizen (born in U.S.) IS currently broken down into two different sub-classifications: native-born citizen OR natural-born citizen. One OR the other.

Direct, current proof that NOT all native-born citizens are natural-born citizens.

No, you're reading it wrong, because you're reading it with your birther glasses on.

It isn't "direct, current proof that not all native-born citizens are natural-born citizens."

It's direct, current proof that not all natural-born citizens are native-born citizens.

If you're a native-born citizen, then you're a natural-born citizen.

But there are natural born citizens - and Ted Cruz is a great example - who are not native born citizens.

Native born, generally, refers to persons born in the United States. If you were born in the United States and were born a citizen (i.e., you weren't the child of a foreign ambassador) then you are certainly a natural born citizen.

If you were born a United States citizen in Canada, because one or both of your parents was a US citizen, then you are a natural born citizen for the purposes of the Constitution and Presidential eligibility. But you are not a "native born" citizen.

164 posted on 08/28/2013 1:19:17 PM PDT by Jeff Winston (Yeah, I think I could go with Cruz in 2016.)
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To: Jeff Winston
If you were born a United States citizen in Canada, because one or both of your parents was a US citizen, then you are a natural born citizen for the purposes of the Constitution and Presidential eligibility.

Nope. 7 FAM 1131.6-2 says the courts have not ruled definitively on such a person's eligibility. I won't quote it again because you know the drill.

171 posted on 08/28/2013 1:38:17 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: Jeff Winston

“””No, you’re reading it wrong, because you’re reading it with your birther glasses on.

It isn’t “direct, current proof that not all native-born citizens are natural-born citizens.”

It’s direct, current proof that not all natural-born citizens are native-born citizens.”””

No. Read the law, Jeff, this time much more carefully:

“Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress Assembled, That hereafter a woman, BEING A NATIVE-BORN CITIZEN, who is believed to have lost her United States citizenship solely by reason of her marriage prior to September 22, 1922, to an alien, and whose marital status with such alien has or shall have terminated or who has resided continuously in the United States since the date of such marriage, shall be deemed to be a citizen of the United States to the same extent as though her marriage to said alien had taken place on or after September 22, 1922.”
http://books.google.com/books?id=a1Aclme7AMkC&lpg=PA173&ots=onepage&q=173&f=false page 173

By CURRENTLY stating the restored U.S. citizenship of such persons as thus:

“The words “shall be deemed to be a citizen of the United States to the same extent as though her marriage to said alien had taken place on or after September 22, 1922”, as they appeared in the 1936 and 1940 statutes, are prospective and restore the status of native-born or natural-born citizen (whichever existed prior to the loss) as of the date citizenship was reacquired.”
http://web.archive.org/web/20130314041654/http://www.uscis.gov/ilink/docView/SLB/HTML/SLB/0-0-0-1/0-0-0-45077/0-0-0-48575.html

NATIVE-born citizens Jeff. If you still don’t get that, read the quoted law above the first link again.

NATIVE-born citizen (born in U.S.) IS currently broken down into two different sub-classifications: native-born citizen OR natural-born citizen. One OR the other, WHICHEVER status existed before the loss of citizenship.

Direct, current proof that NOT all NATIVE-born citizens are natural-born citizens.


174 posted on 08/28/2013 1:53:18 PM PDT by Rides3
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