Here is how [Jeff] lies. He equates "Citizen by birth" without defining the term. According to the Understanding of James Bayard, and According to the Understanding of his son Thomas, The ONLY way to be a "citizen by birth" was to have an American father.
No, it wasn't, doofus.
In 1854, John Charles Frémont (note the French accent over the "e" - that's how he spelled it) was the first Republican candidate for President of the United States.
He ran as the proud son of a Frenchman who had never become a United States citizen, and never intended to. In a 3-way race, he placed a strong 2nd behind James Buchanan.
And yes, Frémont faced a crop of birthers who viciously attacked him because of his birth.
Because his father, you see... had not been married to Frémont's mom.
That was it. Frémont was viciously attacked by birthers... because he was a bastard.
But no one seems to have given a damn that his father hadn't been a United States citizen at the time Frémont was born.
Why? Because unlike Griesser, Frémont was born in the United States, to a RESIDENT alien father.
In 1854, John Charles Frémont (note the French accent over the "e" - that's how he spelled it) was the first Republican candidate for President of the United States.
We were talking about Bayard, you switched it to Frémont as if to prove something about Bayard, and *I'm* the nutcase?
Because his father, you see... had not been married to Frémont's mom.
That was it. Frémont was viciously attacked by birthers... because he was a bastard.
The rule for Bastards is Partus sequitur ventrem, and once again you are a Jackass for trying to use a rare exception to the norm in a pathetic attempt to disprove the rule. For Bastards, the legal system does not recognize a father, because if the mother won't give up the name it cannot.
But no one seems to have given a damn that his father hadn't been a United States citizen at the time Frémont was born.
Regarding Bastards, the Law takes no notice of an alleged father. A man can simply deny paternity and no one (at the time) could prove otherwise.
Why? Because unlike Griesser, Frémont was born in the United States, to a RESIDENT alien father.
As the law takes no notice of the father, it doesn't matter where he resides. Even so, I can't help but notice you ALWAYS RUN AWAY FROM THIS ARGUMENT WHEN OBAMA'S FATHER IS BEING TALKED ABOUT.
You, who have defended Obama's legitimacy all these years, constantly IGNORE the point that Barack Obama sr. was a TRANSIENT ALIEN, never intending to be an American Citizen.
He was a Kenyan Citizen with his permanent Residence in Kenya.
So tell us once more Jeff, does the fact that OBAMA'S FATHER is a Temporary visitor, make Obama not a citizen, or not? Do we apply the "Griesser rule" to Obama? If not, why not?