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To: Nero Germanicus; bluecat6

Even if those steps would create these digital results - and I strongly question whether they would be able to make only the certifying elements moveable, for instance - why would anybody take those steps? Why not just scan the document as-is, saving it as a jpeg, and then upload that jpeg to a website? And then why not let people handle the real 3D document on video so everybody can see?

And it’s not just digital anomalies that are a problem. For instance, a computer program does not center all the supposedly-manually-typed items.

A computer program does not change the cross-hatch pattern to one that the HDOH doesn’t use.

A computer program does not combine methods from 2 different eras, as bluecat6 mentioned.

And a computer program would not be able to get the HI state registrar to refuse to verify for Ken Bennett the actual facts of Obama’s birth, which is legally required of him if the White House BC is a scan of the actual document at the HDOH.

But I’m wondering if the folks at Fogbow have or have been fed some insider information from those who desperately need some kind of explanation for how the White House image is even plausible...


99 posted on 08/04/2013 4:54:47 AM PDT by butterdezillion (,)
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To: butterdezillion

It really doesn’t matter in the least. The replication of digital images and their artifacts is an academic exercise for computer geeks to have fun with on Internet blogs, only.
If there was ever to be a serious LEGAL question on document authenticity presented in a court of law, hard copy documents would be introduced into evidence, not third generation digital reproductions.
The original, vault copy, August 8, 1961 edition, long form birth document resides in state Registrar Dr. Alvin T. Onaka’s safe at the Hawaii Department of Health and it can be made available to a Trier of Fact for inspection under a court order from a judge of a court of competent jurisdiction.
There has never been a CRIMINAL legal proceeding challenging the authenticity of the ORIGINAL birth vital record. (forgery, official document alteration and election fraud are crimes). A formal criminal proceeding would involve expert witnesses and cross-examination by the opposing side.
What there has been is civil lawsuits using (only) digital reproductions of the original document as supporting exhibits in plaintiffs’ and defendants’ briefs for judges to consider.


104 posted on 08/04/2013 11:25:43 AM PDT by Nero Germanicus
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